Posted on 05/14/2006 5:49:04 PM PDT by AmericaOne
From a couple of earlier FR post, Bush set for immigration speech and House/Senate Conference: Hastert Turning His Back On Us????, it appears that Speaker Hastert is indicating that he favors appointing members who support amnesty to the Conference Committee. Both President Bush and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist are pressuring Hastert to secure a guest worker amnesty for which the President can claim credit by stacking the Conference Committee with amnesty backers!
We need to REALLY put pressure on the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus (Tancredo, Hayworth, King, etc.) to start flexing some of their own political muscle.
Tancredo, Hayworth and the rest of the 90 + members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus (CIRC) still have a very powerful ace up their sleeve, if they are willing to use it.
If these reports are true and Hastert will do whatever it takes to get an Amnesty bill thru the House, then what the CIRC has to do is first go up to Hastert and warn him that if he packs the House side of the Conference Committee with those who favor amnesty and/or tries any shenanigans in getting an Amnesty bill thru the House (like he did for the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan), then they will do the following:
1. Immediately announce that they are publicly withdrawing their voting support for Speaker Hastert, probably by temporarily leaving the Republican Caucus. That would mean that Speaker Hastert would no longer have the majority of votes in the House to remain speaker. Remember, for voting on the Speaker of the House, the whole house votes for the Speaker, not just the majority party. Remember the bru ha ha a few years back when a Democrat crossed party lines to vote for Hastert as Speaker.
2. This would then force Hastert out as Speaker immediately, since he no longer has the majority of the House backing him as Speaker.
3. There would then be two possibilities of this:
a. This would mean that if the GOP wants the next Speaker to be from the GOP for the rest of this Congress, then they had better pick someone who the CIRC approves of. The CIRC can really show some leverage here, either they will cast their votes for someone who agrees with them on immigration or if they do not support whom the rest of the GOP puts up as Hasterts replacement, they then can:
b. The CIRC membership does not cast a vote for Speaker, sits out the election and Pelosi picks up the Speaker ship by default (YIKES). I doubt the rats would vote to retain Hastert or any other Republican as speaker.
The CIRC potentially holds an awful lot of leverage and power here, if they are willing to exercise it. I suggest we all contact the members of the CIRC and remind them of this. Give them the encouragement they need to pull this off, if it is needed. Below is the link to the CIRC membership where you can get contact info for their members:
http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/members.html
I know this is a stretch, maybe even a Nuclear Option, but it can happen and should happen (option a. above, hopefully), if this story is true and Hastert intends on selling the American People out. If this story is true, then Hastert deserves to be FIRED IMMEDIATELY by his House colleagues.
BTTT
Stop the vanities. There are hundreds of existing illegal threads already. Sheesh.
It's up to the house of representatives. The senate is ready to sale us out big-time.
People can post whatever they want. You don't decide.
I'm with you on that point.
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If you don't like the topic, then don't click on the thread link!!!
I agree. I feel that Frist should be fired as well as Hastert, though I don't think there are 28 Republican Senators who would vote to fire him as Majority Leader, let alone that many who would even attempt to filibuster. The only part of Congress where Amnesty can be stopped in the House. I do not believe there are currently 40 senators that would filibuster a bill that has Amnesty in it.
"though I don't think there are 28 Republican Senators who would vote to fire him as Majority Leader"
If there are 28 willing to vote against him, you can bet that they're all of a more RINOesque thread than he. We'd end up with Senate Majority Leader Snowe or some other nonsense.
Frist is corrigible, at least. Problem is, he's corrigilbe from the left and right.
Ken Mehlman, Chairman
Email: Chairman@gop.com
Jo Ann Davidson, Co-Chairman
Email: Info@gop.com
It appears it's too late.
Don't feel bad about a few 'crashers', they've even labled your thread with keyword "BASHBUSH", but it's on almost all the anti-amnesty threads (and worse). There seem to be only a handful of them, but their contempt is growing worse.
Anyway, thank you for this thread and all of the important information! I would like to see Tancredo make a run in '08.and I will continue to e-mail encouragement.
Excellent that you posted this, if I may add:
Links to the complete text of SB 2611
The Senate Citizenshhip Give Away Bill and other Freebies for Illegal Aliens
Senate Poised to Launch Broad Immigration Debate Monday May 11, 2006
by Congressional Quarterly
Senate leaders have cleared the way for a freewheeling debate on immigration starting Monday that is likely to occupy the chamber for the two weeks leading up to the Memorial Day recess. Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., announced they will launch a no-holds-barred floor debate over immigration legislation addressing border security, a temporary guest worker program and a path to legalization for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the United States.
If the Senate, as expected, refuses to limit debate on a pending small-business health insurance bill, the immigration bill will be on the floor Monday, Frist said. Frist and Reid reached agreement on the appointment of Senate conferees to negotiate a final bill with the House, which passed its own immigration measure last December.
There will be 26 Senate conferees, an unusually large group. The top seven Republicans and five Democrats from the Judiciary Committee will serve, along with seven additional senators from each party to be named by Frist and Reid.
However, if we don't stop the President and the Senate from pushing Amnesty down our throats by May 31 - which they have vowed to do - then there won't be any illegal aliens - they will become citizens and the contractors won't be breaking the law.. Put your efforts into stopping the House / Senate compromise - Conferee Committe than will we working starting Monday to ram Amnesty down our throats.
Will the Americans living here need to file for immigration papers for our country, I mean we will be the outsiders(foreign group) in the country before long. Do we need to have preverential treatment like the others, I guess that will never happen.
Yes my friend can you say selloouts?
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