BTTT
Stop the vanities. There are hundreds of existing illegal threads already. Sheesh.
It's up to the house of representatives. The senate is ready to sale us out big-time.
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Ken Mehlman, Chairman
Email: Chairman@gop.com
Jo Ann Davidson, Co-Chairman
Email: Info@gop.com
Excellent that you posted this, if I may add:
Links to the complete text of SB 2611
The Senate Citizenshhip Give Away Bill and other Freebies for Illegal Aliens
Senate Poised to Launch Broad Immigration Debate Monday May 11, 2006
by Congressional Quarterly
Senate leaders have cleared the way for a freewheeling debate on immigration starting Monday that is likely to occupy the chamber for the two weeks leading up to the Memorial Day recess. Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., announced they will launch a no-holds-barred floor debate over immigration legislation addressing border security, a temporary guest worker program and a path to legalization for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the United States.
If the Senate, as expected, refuses to limit debate on a pending small-business health insurance bill, the immigration bill will be on the floor Monday, Frist said. Frist and Reid reached agreement on the appointment of Senate conferees to negotiate a final bill with the House, which passed its own immigration measure last December.
There will be 26 Senate conferees, an unusually large group. The top seven Republicans and five Democrats from the Judiciary Committee will serve, along with seven additional senators from each party to be named by Frist and Reid.
However, if we don't stop the President and the Senate from pushing Amnesty down our throats by May 31 - which they have vowed to do - then there won't be any illegal aliens - they will become citizens and the contractors won't be breaking the law.. Put your efforts into stopping the House / Senate compromise - Conferee Committe than will we working starting Monday to ram Amnesty down our throats.
Will the Americans living here need to file for immigration papers for our country, I mean we will be the outsiders(foreign group) in the country before long. Do we need to have preverential treatment like the others, I guess that will never happen.
the pubbies have a problem. their choices like those of the people on flight 73 are between certain death and near certain death.
If they allow the illegals citizenship--the illegal/legals will do what they did after 1986: vote democratic and tip the country to a democratic majority as they have done in california and that because after 1993 in California many mexicans began voting in california to preserve gov bennies--for which the dems excel. There won't be social security benefit for Americans of retirement age from the illegals/legals because they will suck up what ever they put into the economy--as they are now. They won't yield a net gain. ie they won't pay for anyone's social security.
Everyone but everyone who has ever been to any government building that dispenses anything from health care to drivers lisences can't help but notice that the place is swamped with foreigners. Basically the welfare state system set up in the 1960's is being totally gamed by foreigners.
What the president looks like he is about to do will demoralize the republicans bringing on the effects of the 1992 & 1996 elections. There may not even be a third party but when W builds in a reversal of the fortunes of the war of 1848--it creates a kind of passivity in people when they see their leaders commit them to the status of world historical losers.
If Bush decides to put up a wall and expel the illegals then there is a chance to preserve Republican majorities. It would be helpful to promise that the USA will kill the cost of water desalination and transport so as to make it economically possible to turn the deserts 1000 miles from any desert seacoast -- green. (this would increase the habitable size of the USA by a third and double the habitable size of Mexico.)This work is already ongoing and will be accomplished in five years or so--or in about the same time frame that GM promises to have a cost effective fuel cell car. For GM as it is for the GOP its do or die time.
imho its a mistake for the bush's to put worries about fox ahead of worries about the USA. In any case if the USA returned the illegals to Mexico it would be a great boon to their economy because they would suddenly get an influx of skilled labor that they didn't have before (albeit mixed with expensive troublemakers) and a people who would have a good picture of what a successful country looks like and demand the same for their own. Perhaps they would even demand good government.
Not sure if I should post this here on this post but I came across this during a library research project:
"Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
/r/ jane
Middle of the night and can't sleep. When you get a chance, can you post something that makes clear exactly what needs to be said so that I can e-mail each of these members?
Since you started the thread and have a good understanding of what is possible, I'd just like to have some small 'text' of what best to say in order to accomplish that goal. PM me if necessary.
TIA
Just remember that Hastert and Frist were both selected by the Democrats.