August 30, 1997 - Sammy Hagar appeared on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher last Thursday night.
Oh, the other Hagar, said Maher...
Posted on 05/10/2006 9:38:22 PM PDT by Tim Long
Author Ray Comfort says TV satirist too insecure to accept offer
A Christian author and TV host whose latest book, "Intelligent Design Versus Evolution: Letters to an Atheist," debunks Darwinism has challenged fellow television personality Bill Maher to a public debate on the origins of the Earth.
Says Ray Comfort: "Mr. Maher, like all believers in the theory of evolution, simply has a blind faith in a theory-tale that can't be substantiated. It's just another opiate of the masses – a religion called 'Darwinism' that piously robes itself in what it thinks is 'science.' It is true science fiction."
Comfort hosts "The Way of the Master" with actor Kirk Cameron.
"I am beginning to suspect that some men may have evolved from chickens, or at least that's the impression I get when it comes to evolutionists standing up for their convictions," notes Comfort. "Mr. Maher can choose the place of the debate. I don't mind if he has it in front of his audience. He can bill it as 'Another simple-minded Christian being thrown to the lions.'"
The former host of "Politically Incorrect," Maher now hosts "Real Time with Bill Maher" on HBO and is known to be hostile toward religious faith.
In a statement, Comfort quotes Maher as saying last year: "Evolution is supported by the entire scientific community ... the reason there is no real debate is that intelligent design isn't real science. ..."
Responds Comfort: "I can scientifically prove intelligent design. Let's have 20 minutes each. I present my case (I won't even mention 'faith') and then he can present his case for evolution. I say that he doesn't have one. He's bluffing. I don't mind if he spends his 20 minutes telling jokes, because that's all he has."
In 2001, Comfort was a platform speaker at the American Atheists' 27th National Convention. He has also spoken on the subject of intelligent design at Yale, UCLA and other institutions.
Comfort says his publication "The Atheist Test" has sold over 700,000 copies. He's the author of more than 50 books, including "God Doesn't Believe in Atheists" and "The Evidence Bible."
Referencing intelligent design, Comfort said, "Hundreds of scientific scholars and researchers throughout the world support it – including scientists with the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Smithsonian Institute, with doctoral degrees in biological sciences, physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, computer science and related disciplines, from universities such as Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, and UCLA. So Mr. Maher can't dismiss the idea as 'not scientific' just because he doesn't like that conclusion."
Added the author: "'Intelligent Design Versus Evolution' contains scores of letters written by a very intelligently designed atheist who gives evolution's best arguments. I think that's healthy. Yet pro-evolution pseudo-intellectuals are calling for censorship, by not allowing school kids the freedom to listen to both sides of the argument. That reveals their insecurity."
It was a joke, but I am a big fan of Hovind's debate style.
Correction noted. That's not what I meant.
"Anything is possible in G_d. Even evolution. I still do not see the conflict between salvation and science."
I see a conflict. God says there was no death until the sin of Adam. Evolution says you got to keep dying to develop and adapt.
You either believe the truth of the Bible or believe something else. Both can't be rigth.
Not if life didn't exist during those billions of years.
I said that wrong. I meant that the only reason to believe in an old earth is to make evolution possible. There is no evidence for it and much evidence to the contrary.
How? I don't see the connection at all.
No, I didn't know that. Could you give a citation or two please?
Well, I'm sure there are geological reasons as well.
My point is that there's no reason scientific theories that put the age of this planet at billions of years has to contradict what the Bible says. This is putting evolution aside (and speaking strictly on geological terms).
Well, as I understand it, the Hebrew word for "day" meant a 24 hour day. Also the day and night designations did not need the presence of a sun, as there was light before the sun. Probably not from stars though, as they seem to have been created on day 4.
WKUHilltopper...you raise an interesting, but hardly new, point, in your post #104...many on these crevo threads have raised the very same issue, that there was no death until the sin of Adam and that evolution says you got to keep dying to develop and adapt...that particular thought, has been floating around these crevo threads for some time now...
But as recently as yesterday,someone else raised this very point and then , I saw someone else give quite an eloquent rebuttal to this, and so I reprint it here for you to consider...
MHGinTN...since these two posts I reprint here were your posts, I am pinging you, tho I know, you said, that you really do not have a lot of interest on these crevo threads....however, I think that your post was spot on regarding these questions about death relating to Adam, and Evolution...hope you dont mind my using your words...
WKUHilltopper...here is MHGinTNs post......"As a Christian, I cannot pass on this one: "How about the Fall of Man, a fundamental tenant of the Christian faith? How can evolution have occurred before the Fall? Before death and corruption were introduced into Creation?" The fall to which you refer is 'death on a spiritual level' and as best my Christian reading can instruct me, plants and animals aren't vested with a spirit, though they have a soul of life since they do die. Is it so great a stretch to your faith to realize that spiritual forces do manifest in physical and living consequences? Of course not ... so please try to check dogma at the door when entering these evo-crevo threads because your narrowness is embarrassing to fellow Christians like myself."
And then there is this follow-posts of MHGinTN...
"Were these critics to focus upon the advent of spirit in the human soul/animal soul, I would see the debates as constructive. But to confuse soul and spirit in the name of 'doing God's heavy lifting on the nature of the universe we've been given to explore' is an exercise in futility. I don't believe the spirit component of humankind has been evolving for ttens or hundreds or millions of years. But the fossil record indicates the physical bodies and accompanying forms for function have been. In short, the human spirit hasn't evolved from apes or amoebas, but the science we have seems to indicate that the body used to inveigle spirit into the universe of space and time and life-force has descended from such. It's kind of like arguing whether the body Jesus occupied could have held 'all of God' ... Philip got a lecture on that very topic, BTW."
WKUHilltopper...you may not agree with these posts, but surely they offer a fine rebuttal to your claims about death...
But even the light itself isn't created until verse 3. And no specific time period, day or otherwise, is given until verse 2. I really can't see the time span of verses 1 and 2 being within one 24-hour period. But since days and nights didn't exist until light was created, there really is no such thing as "time" at the very beginning so what goes on before that is probably ageless.
A.D.D.? Whadayamean?
This is assuming that you have complete understanding of G_d's word. Do you read the Bible in Greek, Hebrew, or English?
"This is assuming that you have complete understanding of G_d's word. Do you read the Bible in Greek, Hebrew, or English?"
I always fiqured this was immaterial. If God is powerful enough to speak into existence everything in a flash, then He certainly can invoke His will to mere men to transcribe His points properly. I consider it much like you'd see a car operations manual. It may be written in different languages, but the intent and written instruction maintaining the vehicle gets you to the same point/objective.
August 30, 1997 - Sammy Hagar appeared on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher last Thursday night.
Oh, the other Hagar, said Maher...
Good point. If the will of God isn't clear and is only available to a tiny few who can read dead languages, the words aren't worth much.
Yes, that sure makes Mr. Comfort look like he's confident in his position.
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