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Bill Maher challenged to intelligent-design debate
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 10, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Posted on 05/10/2006 9:38:22 PM PDT by Tim Long

Author Ray Comfort says TV satirist too insecure to accept offer

A Christian author and TV host whose latest book, "Intelligent Design Versus Evolution: Letters to an Atheist," debunks Darwinism has challenged fellow television personality Bill Maher to a public debate on the origins of the Earth.

Says Ray Comfort: "Mr. Maher, like all believers in the theory of evolution, simply has a blind faith in a theory-tale that can't be substantiated. It's just another opiate of the masses – a religion called 'Darwinism' that piously robes itself in what it thinks is 'science.' It is true science fiction."

Comfort hosts "The Way of the Master" with actor Kirk Cameron.

"I am beginning to suspect that some men may have evolved from chickens, or at least that's the impression I get when it comes to evolutionists standing up for their convictions," notes Comfort. "Mr. Maher can choose the place of the debate. I don't mind if he has it in front of his audience. He can bill it as 'Another simple-minded Christian being thrown to the lions.'"

The former host of "Politically Incorrect," Maher now hosts "Real Time with Bill Maher" on HBO and is known to be hostile toward religious faith.

In a statement, Comfort quotes Maher as saying last year: "Evolution is supported by the entire scientific community ... the reason there is no real debate is that intelligent design isn't real science. ..."

Responds Comfort: "I can scientifically prove intelligent design. Let's have 20 minutes each. I present my case (I won't even mention 'faith') and then he can present his case for evolution. I say that he doesn't have one. He's bluffing. I don't mind if he spends his 20 minutes telling jokes, because that's all he has."

In 2001, Comfort was a platform speaker at the American Atheists' 27th National Convention. He has also spoken on the subject of intelligent design at Yale, UCLA and other institutions.

Comfort says his publication "The Atheist Test" has sold over 700,000 copies. He's the author of more than 50 books, including "God Doesn't Believe in Atheists" and "The Evidence Bible."

Referencing intelligent design, Comfort said, "Hundreds of scientific scholars and researchers throughout the world support it – including scientists with the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Smithsonian Institute, with doctoral degrees in biological sciences, physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, computer science and related disciplines, from universities such as Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, and UCLA. So Mr. Maher can't dismiss the idea as 'not scientific' just because he doesn't like that conclusion."

Added the author: "'Intelligent Design Versus Evolution' contains scores of letters written by a very intelligently designed atheist who gives evolution's best arguments. I think that's healthy. Yet pro-evolution pseudo-intellectuals are calling for censorship, by not allowing school kids the freedom to listen to both sides of the argument. That reveals their insecurity."


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Some of you may be familiar with Ray Comfort through his show "The Way of the Master." I'm sure he would fare well, although I doubt Maher would ever take him up on his challenge.
1 posted on 05/10/2006 9:38:22 PM PDT by Tim Long
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To: Tim Long

Bill Maher recently heard to say, "Who the heck is Ray Comfort?"


2 posted on 05/10/2006 9:41:00 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: GrandEagle; WKB; Jo Nuvark

If you are a Young-Earth Creationist, accept the water canopy theory, do not accept speciation, and want on my Six Days Ping List, Freepmail me.

3 posted on 05/10/2006 9:41:05 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Tim Long
"I am beginning to suspect that some men may have evolved from chickens...

Bwaaaahaaahaa.

4 posted on 05/10/2006 9:43:33 PM PDT by DanielLongo (don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo

Yeah, that was pretty funny.


5 posted on 05/10/2006 9:44:03 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Tim Long
I doubt Maher would ever take him up on his challenge.

Why would he? Maher's a goofy liberal talk show host, not a scientist.

6 posted on 05/10/2006 9:44:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tim Long

Anything is possible in G_d. Even evolution. I still do not see the conflict between salvation and science.


7 posted on 05/10/2006 9:44:46 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: aliquando
Anything is possible in G_d. Even evolution. I still do not see the conflict between salvation and science.

Read Genesis.

8 posted on 05/10/2006 9:46:02 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Tim Long

My advice to anyone and everyone is to avoid debating Maher because it is a waste of time. He is a comedian turned political activist. His audiences are usually hostile, and his debate style involves a lot of playing to his audience and using them to silence or intimidate.

In other words, there is no intelligent debate on any subject with Maher, only a lot of demagoguery and populism... Like any good showman, and I'll admit, he used to be good when he used to stick to making fun of things just to be funny. Now he acts on behalf of political bias 100% of the time and in doing so, he's taken his show very far to the Left.


9 posted on 05/10/2006 9:46:14 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: aliquando
I still do not see the conflict between salvation and science.

We're not talking about theology. There is a conflict between real science and crap science (Darwinism). It's not a question of what God was capable of, it's a question of what He did.

10 posted on 05/10/2006 9:50:01 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: aliquando

There are a lot of people who think they can fit God in a box and somehow make him stay in there.

Science and salvation are not mutually exclusive. You can have both.

In fact, if you spend enough time studying science with an open mind, one can attribute our existence and that of the Universe to the vagaries of chance, or to God. Chances are that people who believe that God can design such a complex and intricate Universe full of beauty and elegance live much more happily than those who think 1 in infinity counts as a plausible explanation for our existence.

Or, as I say, "If there is no God, nature does one heck of an imitation."


11 posted on 05/10/2006 9:51:10 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Tim Long
I'm sure he would fare well, although I doubt Maher would ever take him up on his challenge.

Oh dandy.

Once again we have a creationist who embarrasses conservatives. This creationist bozo would lose. But more importantly, he would lose to a complete idiot like Maher.

Conservatives don't just look bad, we look really bad.

12 posted on 05/10/2006 9:56:34 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Tim Long
Ray Comfort's Atheist Test

Thanks for the post!

13 posted on 05/10/2006 9:58:27 PM PDT by rvoitier ("News is what's suppressed. Everything else is advertising.")
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To: Tim Long
"There is a conflict between real science and crap science (Darwinism)."

Yes, Evolution is has no rigorous scientific "proofs" like the "Banana Theory".

So, is this really the guy you want to argue your scientific evidence?

(video was posted by spetznaz on an previous thread but I just gotta pass it on)
14 posted on 05/10/2006 9:58:44 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Tim Long; aliquando
There is a conflict between real science and crap science (Darwinism).

And you know the difference?? Because you are a scientist?? Let's see. Knowing the average creationist on this forum, you have had what, high school science??

The sheer arrogance of you people is beyond belief. The best of you is a junior college all-star. None of you has a degree in science. None of you has ever worked as a scientist. Not one of you has ever published in science. Yet, you will argue with those of us who spent (nominally) a decade getting a Ph.D and have more publications each then the entire output of all creationists and all IDers combined.

Once upon a time, conservatives stood for hard work and accomplishment. We were proud of the fact that we worked harder, were better educated, and accomplished more than any liberal you could find.

Now, any bozo with a HS education can claim he knows real science.

15 posted on 05/10/2006 10:01:12 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.
-Albert Einstein

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
-Albert Einstein


16 posted on 05/10/2006 10:01:42 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 2ndreconmarine

No need to get so upset over something that happened 6,000 years ago... Oh, wait, you believe it happened 4.6 billion years ago. Even better!


17 posted on 05/10/2006 10:06:40 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Why would he? Maher's a goofy liberal talk show host, not a scientist.

Indeed. Why should Maher defend evolution publically when every scientist that tries to in debate largely losses the debate and increases the number of people against evolution. Why do you guys think there is such a dismissive attitude toward debating and an iron fisted approach toward allowing that debate to happen in schools too. Evolutionists are all too aware of the dangers involved in the public hearing the evidence. That is why they'd rather it didn't happen. And that's why these guys are so abusive, snobbish and dismissive on the whole. They know they are an 'endangered species'. The Nazi war machine held to it's propaganda as did the German people even after they were defeated. Many wouldn't believe the truth even when it was shown to them. And today, Neo-Nazis go so far as to say that much of what Nazis are to blame for never happened. I don't offer that as a comparison to Nazi-ism. I Offer Nazi-ism as an example of how propaganda has a life of it's own inspite of truth. Let the whaling commense.

18 posted on 05/10/2006 10:09:40 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: 2ndreconmarine

Would it be reasonable to suggest that one's faith and one's political beliefs/doctrines can be neatly separated?

Personally, I'm a creationist. However, that is irrelevant to the fact that I'm a conservative. The two really don't have much to do with each other. This can also serve as a critique of people who are a little too vocal on this forum when it comes to being pro-creationist.

But speaking only for myself, I fail to see how my own views on the beginning of the world (which are actually different from other creationists here) is an embarrassment to YOU as a CONSERVATIVE.


19 posted on 05/10/2006 10:13:33 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: ndt
Is that guy in the video really serious, or is that a parody?

If the banana's user friendly interface was designed by God to make it easy for humans to eat, why did he put it a few thousand miles too far away for early Christians to even know about it.

And what is the pomegranate? A test?

20 posted on 05/10/2006 10:14:00 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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