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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: Kimberly GG
"...you people..."

Nosy Neighbor

1,601 posted on 05/12/2006 11:45:09 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: PRND21

That you continue to excuse and justify lawbreaking and promote others to do the same is abhorrent.


1,602 posted on 05/12/2006 11:50:18 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
That you continue to excuse and justify lawbreaking and promote others to do the same is abhorrent.

Source, please.
Add liar to hypocrite. You FRigilantes are all the same!

1,603 posted on 05/12/2006 11:56:00 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21

As soon as you can site a source to back your claim that I'm a hypocrite.

You FROBL's are all the same.


1,604 posted on 05/12/2006 12:06:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
But that is EXACTLY what you pro-illegals do: justify lawbreaking because you do it or know someone who has; in your minds you think that the definition of a particular law which displeases you can be broken, depending upon who committed the lawbreaking.

I suspect you're more right than you know.

1,605 posted on 05/12/2006 12:11:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

It's become more and more obvious that that is the case, just in the past week.


1,606 posted on 05/12/2006 12:25:58 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
I did, this thread.
Fourth request- Do you support Tancredo?
1,608 posted on 05/12/2006 1:17:52 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21

Cite the specific post wherein you can back your claim that I am a hypocrite.


1,609 posted on 05/12/2006 1:19:03 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Methinks the MSM has finally turned Republicans into Democrats (one-issue voters).


1,610 posted on 05/12/2006 1:21:44 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: nicmarlo
Cite the specific post...

I said this thread...take your pick.
Do you support Tancredo, or not? Why so skittish suddenly?

1,611 posted on 05/12/2006 1:25:13 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Fourth request- Do you support Tancredo?

The topic related to the language of and compliance with the immigration laws, the breaking of which are felonius acts, irrespective of persons.

Again, where in the law does it state that the guilt of an individual who "knowingly" or "reasonably should have known" that s/he is committing a felonious act is DEPENDENT upon whatever it may be that Tancredo says or does or does not say or do, and/or whether someone supports or doesn't support Tancredo? Whether I support Tom Tancredo or not has nothing to do with whether or not a person who commits a crime is guilty. Whether I even support the law, as it is written, is also irrelevant. The fact remains, the law, as it is written, makes the person who broke that law a person who committed a felony.

1,612 posted on 05/12/2006 1:36:01 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: PRND21

Cite the specific post to which you can back your claim that I am a hypocrite.

Lacking that, you have outed yourself a liar.


1,613 posted on 05/12/2006 1:37:01 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
The fact remains, the law, as it is written, makes the person who broke that law a person who committed a felony.

Now you're calling Tancy a felony?
Some loyal Conservative you are!

1,614 posted on 05/12/2006 1:40:54 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: nicmarlo
Lacking that, you have outed yourself a liar.

Phhffft!

1,615 posted on 05/12/2006 1:41:30 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: hispanichoosier
I don't give a crap about it because it distracts the pols from my top issues and because it can cost us votes from Hispanics.

Then you and your friends are conservative like I'm a major league ball player.

I suspect you are actually a liberal, albeit a stingy one. That's usually what "conservatives" who posture themselves as "pragmatists," or demonstrate no guiding principles turn out to be.

1,616 posted on 05/12/2006 1:45:34 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: sinkspur; woofie; All

Some of you here are sick puppies (jaded degenerates) to use and mock the tragic situation of the donner party...

Who are you people???

The Donner Party was the most famous tragedy in the history of the westward migration. Almost ninety wagon train emigrants were unable to cross the Sierra Nevada before winter, and almost one-half starved to death. Perhaps because they were ordinary people -- farmers, merchants, parents, children -- their story captures the imagination. The logs on this site contain the words of the participants from their diaries, letters and first-hand accounts, balanced by the perspective of later historians. The logs describe the locations of their trail and camps in detail so you can follow in the Donner Party's wagon tracks and footsteps.
http://members.aol.com/DanMRosen/donner/

Thursday, April 22, 1847
Fallon's Journal of the Fourth Relief: "On the 22d., traveled down Juba about 18 miles, and camped at the head of Bear River valley.--" [18 miles from Bear Valley would be at the Pass.]

In 1879, Keseberg gave a statement to C.F. McGlashan: "One day I was dragging myself slowly along behind the party, when I came to a place which had evidently been used as a camping ground by some of the previous parties. Feeling very tired, I thought it would be a good place to make some coffee. Kindling a fire, I filled my coffee-pot with fresh snow and sat waiting for it to melt and get hot. Happening to case my eyes carelessly around, I discovered a little piece of calico protruding from the snow. Half thoughtlessly, half out of idle curiosity, I caught hold of the cloth, and finding it did not come readily, I gave it a strong pull. I had in my hands the body of my dead child Ada! She had been buried in the snow which, melting down, had disclosed a portion of her clothing. I thought I should go frantic! It was the first intimation I had of her death, and it came with such a shock!"

[Three year old Ada Keseberg had died on February 25, at the First Reief's camp at the upper end of the Yuba Bottoms, present Kingvale.]


1,617 posted on 05/12/2006 1:46:03 PM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu
Oh lighten up Francis. The Donner party reference is the best yet to describe the 15% of freepers calling for a deomcrat takeover in 2006.
1,618 posted on 05/12/2006 1:47:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: PRND21

It is you who desires to have the law distinguish between persons. A law that is applied in that manner is not a law at all. Conservatives historically have sought to have the Rule of Law upheld, irrespective of persons.

I am on the side of enforcing the laws, irrespective of who is in 'my' camp, irrespective of their name, age, rank, position, gender, location, faith, education, or political affiliation. It's about being on the side of law enforcement, not personalities.


1,619 posted on 05/12/2006 1:50:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Texasforever

What does this have to do with a tragedy in the 1800's?

It seems you mocking it to me!


1,620 posted on 05/12/2006 1:53:49 PM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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