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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: mystery-ak
Who's fault would it be if those people were in those postitions after the next election?

The fools who didn't think it was important enough to keep them out by sticking to their base, or their base for not showing up to support their incompentence and disregard of the people who elected them?

1,581 posted on 05/12/2006 9:53:17 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: nicmarlo
He did the same thing Tancredo did.
I'll ask you again, Do you support Tancredo?
1,582 posted on 05/12/2006 9:53:56 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Tony is the Hans Brinker (the Dutch boy who stuck his finger in the dike to save Holland) of modern day U.S.A.

While Tony is resouceful, man does he have his work cut out for him!


1,583 posted on 05/12/2006 9:54:20 AM PDT by hgro
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To: nicmarlo

Oh! So you DO support lawbreaking! I knew you were a closet scofflaw!


1,584 posted on 05/12/2006 9:55:21 AM PDT by zook
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To: Abundy; Everybody
Abundy wrote:
You really need to get a grip.


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It's deja vu all over again.

-- This thread reminds me of a golden oldie, -- search for the same suspects, same "bravado":


Bush Extremely Strong With Base (The democrats don't get it after all their smears)
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/693246/posts?q=1&&page=301
1,585 posted on 05/12/2006 9:55:56 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: PRND21

And I will ask you: How does the "meaning of a law," the breaking of which is a felonious act, CHANGE or have to do with supporting or not supporting a particular individual who wants that law enforced?

If you say that Tom Tancredo is disqualified from wanting a law enforced that he himself broke, please show me a law states he is breaking yet another law by wanting a law (you claim he "knowingly" or "reasonably should have known" committed).

If it is your point to call him a hypocrite, based on the above, that is your right. But, if Tom Tancredo is "being a hypocrite" does that act nullify the law in question?


1,586 posted on 05/12/2006 10:06:40 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
I didn't say Tom is a hypocrite, though he most surely is.
I said it about you based on this thread.
1,587 posted on 05/12/2006 10:09:01 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: zook

Your attempt to wrap yourself in the American flag while promoting and justifying felonius crimes committed by American employers and illegal aliens who, by definition are not citizens of this country, is shameful and disgusting.


1,588 posted on 05/12/2006 10:09:36 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: PRND21

There is nothing on this thread which points to me being a hypocrite.

Only your attempt to make it appear that way.


1,589 posted on 05/12/2006 10:10:19 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: FreedomPoster

That is why Rush call them the drive by media.


1,590 posted on 05/12/2006 10:15:13 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: verity

"You must be joking if you want a repeat of Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton."

Why are you people always so extreme? You seem to take any opposition to President Bush so personally offensive that you jump to ridiculous conclusions. Just because I feel that some Republicans, including Bush, have taken the ABSOLUTE WRONG position on this issue, it doesn't mean that ALL Republicans have. I have no intention of becomming a democrat. Nor do I plan to compromise national security by voting for someone who refuses to secure the borders and hands out the reward of amnesty to those who've entered the country illegally.


1,591 posted on 05/12/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Republican FOR an effectively secured border, AGAINST 'earned' amnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

"Your attempt to wrap yourself in the American flag while promoting and justifying felonius crimes committed by American employers and illegal aliens who, by definition are not citizens of this country, is shameful and disgusting."

LMAO! Why don't you send your "posse" after me?


1,594 posted on 05/12/2006 10:39:16 AM PDT by zook
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To: nicmarlo
You've ducked the same simple question twice. You know what that means.
That great void in your righteousness has sucked the speed right out of FR this morning.
1,595 posted on 05/12/2006 10:54:52 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: zook
Why don't you send your "posse" after me?

That's not necessary. You've exposed yourself as morally bankrupt and without ethics. Therefore, your credibility is.....nada.

Ethics remain dead in America
Our politics suffers from a shortage of people who put
character and country before career and personal gain.

..."Abandoning an absolute ethical (and) moral standard leads irresistibly to the absence of ethics and morality. Each person determines his own ethical/moral code. That's anarchy. Humans become their own gods and decide, each in his own way, what is good and what is evil. Evil becomes good -- good becomes evil. Upside down morality! Good is ridiculed! Evil is dignified!" It isn't that all people in every age don't sin (remember that "quaint" word?). Wrongdoing was once treated seriously. Today, it doesn't matter and what we tolerate we get more of.

1,596 posted on 05/12/2006 10:58:39 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo

All them uh-leegals is also morally bankrupt and without no ethics neither so let's call back that thar posse from them, too!

Frankly, I don't see you as even understanding the difference between "morals," "ethics," and "laws."


1,597 posted on 05/12/2006 11:03:23 AM PDT by zook
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To: PRND21
You've ducked the same simple question twice. You know what that means. That great void in your righteousness has sucked the speed right out of FR this morning.

Your spin is what is transparent.

Where within the following language of the law does it state that the MEANING and/or ENFORCEMENT, and/or INTENT, and/or VALIDITY of the following LAWS is dependent upon: 1) who it is that wants the law enforced (the messenger, i.e., [fill in blank] (...oh, it's Tancredo for you)); or 2) the NAME or PERSONALITY of the individual or group who committed the crime; or 3) whether or not the individual who wants a law enforced may be a hypocrite (as you claim Tancredo or, by transference, anybody who aligns themself with his cause), because that person may have broken that law himself; or 4) doesn't agree with the law as written:

Federal Law--Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he: assists an illegal alien she/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions."

ILLEGAL HIRING: Section 1324a states:

"Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".

In the same vein, if you yourself have broken a law and know of others who have, where within our legal system is there imposed the restriction of speech, the requirement to remain silent, on the very law that individual may have been guilty of breaking themself, or a restriction from their ability to denounce the criminal acts of others who willingly break that same law?

Where within our legal system does it state that an individual who may have once broken a law should and must not only continue committing those acts of lawbreaking, but encourage and promote others to do likewise?

Breaking the law is breaking the law, regardless of persons, personalities, identities, excuses, or justifications. That you wish to make excuses and justify lawbreaking because you dislike the messenger is irrelevant and does not invalidate the meaning, intent, or validity of the law. Likewise, as I have repeatedly stated, what my opinion is of the messenger is irrelevant, as it also does not change the meaning, intent, or validity of the law.

1,598 posted on 05/12/2006 11:40:24 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: zook
I don't see you as even understanding the difference between "morals," "ethics," and "laws."

That doesn't surprise me, as people who are morally bankrupt are blind and cannot see nor understand Truth.

1,599 posted on 05/12/2006 11:42:26 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo

All that copy/paste and still no answer. Typical.


1,600 posted on 05/12/2006 11:44:15 AM PDT by PRND21
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