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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: Imivasion2006
This is comical,

Yes it is.

I am sure you are quite frightened now that mr internet law dog is on your tail......I admire you for your restraint. Someone needs to go to the quarterdeck

I wish I could be the fly on the wall ate the investigator that gets his complaint. The comments they make will be even more comical.

I can see it now: Guy that claims to break the law, complains about guy that says breaking the law can get you thrown in jail.

I see a circular out basket being used.

1,541 posted on 05/12/2006 12:06:48 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: nunya bidness; sinkspur
SPLC Link

"...That's a strange rhetorical device given the accusations leveled at Simcox in the summer of 1998, when his 14-year-old daughter from his first marriage -- prior to his union with Dunbar -- came to live with him in Los Angeles.

In separate interviews with the Intelligence Report, two of Simcox's former colleagues at Wildwood and his first ex-wife gave the same account. They said that Simcox helped his daughter get a job babysitting for a Wildwood School employee and that one night, Simcox's daughter showed up unexpectedly at her employer's house, visibly upset, alleging that her father had just attempted to sexually molest her.

"He tried to molest our daughter when he was intoxicated," said Deborah Crews, Simcox's first ex-wife and the girl's mother. "When she ran out, he tried to say he was just giving her a leg massage and she got the wrong idea."

Contacted by the Report, Simcox refused to answer four direct questions about the molestation allegations. "I would never answer those questions to you. You can't ask those questions," he said. "You're on a witch hunt and you're trying to discredit our movement, which is to secure the borders. ... My personal life has nothing to do with anything that goes on here."

No charges were filed against Simcox, but Crews said she and her daughter immediately broke off all contact with him..."

Of course the SPLC and Morris Dees in particular have a lot of nerve.

Victim of Smear Campaign Gets Even With Morris Dees

"..Quoting from the Alabama Court of Civil Appeals, CIV2114 (1979), the brochure says:

Of all the damning indictments against Morris Dees, the worst comes from his closest connection. He was sued by his ex-wife, Maureene Bass Dees, who alleged that he had committed incest with his stepdaughter and future daughter-in-law.”

“When Dees saw the program he was visibly shaken,” the paper quotes Salley. “I stood up and asked him why 55 percent of the SPLC’s income went into his pocket, and he tried to shout me down. Then other members of our group tried to ask him similar questions, and they shut down the question-and-answer period.”.."

Both the SPLC piece and the other article are probably accurate, with respect to the content of the accusations against both men. If they were not lawsuits would be flying.

1,542 posted on 05/12/2006 1:07:52 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Texasforever; Spiff
Who the hell are you to tell people who they can hire to work on THEIR property? You are pathetic.

Er, it isn't Spiff telling you who you can and can't hire...it's the Federal Government.

1,543 posted on 05/12/2006 3:29:44 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: Texasforever; Marine Inspector

So, TF, if you are bragging about speeding to work over lunch with co-workers and a police officer warns you not to speed because you might get a ticket you will report him for intimidating you under the color of law?

Or when you file a report on MI and his superior tells you to stop harrasing him for doing his job or face arrest will you report his superior to his superior?

You really need to get a grip.


1,544 posted on 05/12/2006 3:35:17 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: Armedanddangerous

Well what are the Democrats gonna do different than what W is doing? Let the 20 million illegals stay?Or are they going to kick them out?Would the democrats sign the Campaign finance reform into law saying, oh the supreme court will throw this out as unconstitoutional ! Or maybe the democrats will campaign for Tom Delay for reelection as Bush did for Arlen Spector ?
Where is there something as a conservative, besides something as basic as survival that I can grasp onto, to support a President who I want to support !
Everytime this guy speaks he tells me I should support policies to help lawbreakers!
He has not put up a spirited fight for anything ,he folds like a cheap camera and it is going to be his downfall when the democrats impeach him


1,545 posted on 05/12/2006 3:45:09 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Kimberly GG
"But who's to blame for that?"

The voters.

1,546 posted on 05/12/2006 4:56:32 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I do not have a solution and neither do you.

One must differentiate between between a theoretical solution and one that can be implemented by our duly elected officials.

I trust you are more sensible than you appear to be on this issue. The nonsense about "plucking out your eye if it offends you is pure horseshit."

1,547 posted on 05/12/2006 5:05:31 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: hispanichoosier

"I don't give a crap about it because it distracts the pols from my top issues and because it can cost us votes from Hispanics."

Well put.


1,548 posted on 05/12/2006 5:30:07 AM PDT by zook
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To: nicmarlo; sinkspur

Sinkspur: I've had too much experience with illegals who worked their butts off after I couldn't get legal workers...

Nicmarlo: Interesting.


Me: Interesting, most likely true, and highly capitalistic.


1,549 posted on 05/12/2006 5:32:47 AM PDT by zook
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To: nicmarlo

"The law requires those who employ others to obtain documents to verify they are legal to be hired. Not doing so is commission of a felony by the employer. "

As a homeowner, often in search of good workers at affordable prices, I would ignore that law. As a homeowner, no one can force me to check citizenship papers of people I hire for casual temporary work.


1,550 posted on 05/12/2006 5:36:34 AM PDT by zook
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To: nicmarlo

Quite frankly, there are a lot of laws that I ignore on a regular basis. A few days ago I gave my 11 year old daughter a small glass of beer. That, too, is a felony, I believe. Just call me scofflaw.


1,551 posted on 05/12/2006 5:39:15 AM PDT by zook
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To: Marine Inspector; Texasforever

"You can break the law all you want, just don't complain when you get arrested."

As if.


1,552 posted on 05/12/2006 5:44:12 AM PDT by zook
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To: Randy Larsen
You say "WE", because I'm not happy with the Republican Congress, am I excluded from your so called club of "WE"?

Wow. All that ignorance in one post. Good job, Randy.

If you knew anything about me, you would know that I am VERY upset with the Republicans in Congress.

I need go no farther with your post, because all the rest of it was based on a false assumption/accusation, and doesn't need to be defended.

Whoever your 'US' is..........you should calm down and read more carefully, because those of us who are conservatives don't really benefit from the emotionally driven, uneducated ones among us.

1,553 posted on 05/12/2006 5:48:34 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: zook
As a homeowner, often in search of good workers at affordable prices, I would ignore that law. As a homeowner, no one can force me to check citizenship papers of people I hire for casual temporary work.

Hmmm... So, do you believe that you have more than likely hired illegal aliens?

1,554 posted on 05/12/2006 6:55:12 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: zook
Quite frankly, there are a lot of laws that I ignore on a regular basis. A few days ago I gave my 11 year old daughter a small glass of beer. That, too, is a felony, I believe. Just call me scofflaw.

Interesting...

1,555 posted on 05/12/2006 6:55:59 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

Happy to hear you find it interesting.


1,556 posted on 05/12/2006 6:58:18 AM PDT by zook
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To: Spiff

"Hmmm... So, do you believe that you have more than likely hired illegal aliens?"

Hmmm.... I think I'll just say, "none of your d*** business."


1,557 posted on 05/12/2006 7:06:02 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook; nicmarlo; sinkspur
Sinkspur: I've had too much experience with illegals who worked their butts off after I couldn't get legal workers...

Nicmarlo: Interesting.

Me: Interesting, most likely true, and highly capitalistic.

So is insider trading.

I guess the only difference is that if you get caught using inside information to turn a profit for your investors you get arrested and prosecuted.

1,558 posted on 05/12/2006 7:18:28 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: verity

Then our leadership has 'made their beds', ........shame on them for not having considered the will of the 'voters'.


1,559 posted on 05/12/2006 7:21:27 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: zook
Hmmm.... I think I'll just say, "none of your d*** business."

You're the one who brought it up. You practically bragged that you had done so and didn't care if it was illegal. I just asked for clarification.

I'll take your response as confirmation that you have hired illegal aliens. Those who haven't hired illegals have been quick to say that they haven't. Those who have hired illegals get defensive about it.

1,560 posted on 05/12/2006 7:24:17 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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