Stop the UN Gun Ban

stopungunban.org ^ | 5/9/06 | Wayne La Pierre

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This 4th of July, while you and your family celebrate the 230th Anniversary of the founding of our great nation, there’s one party you won’t be invited to...

...And that’s the party that Kofi Annan is throwing at United Nations headquarters in New York — using your tax dollars — for nearly fifty dictatorships, six terrorist states, governments that endorse execution based on religious faith, and a multitude of other nations from around the globe.

You see, this party isn’t to honor your freedoms -- but to conspire to take them away. That’s right. Over our 4th of July holiday, while taps is played at Arlington National Cemetery to honor Americans who have sacrificed their lives for freedom...

[Myrddin]

I think the Feds and the local Ninja boys would pee all over themselves to see who would be first to confiscate them. You'd have thousands of mini-Wacos. Anyone who thinks Officer Friendly is your pal will get his head handed to him after they shoot your puppy, your wife and burn your house down.

I think most "officer friendly" types understand that they would be room temperature if they attempted gun confiscation.

[Exeter]

Two words: Molon Labe

[Myrddin]

I actually joined the TRT activities when I was in the Denver area Jan->Mar 2000. My TRT shirt is still in the car. The San Diego offshoot jumped on efforts to shutdown the Crossroads of the West Gun Show at the Del Mar Fair buildings.

[Myrddin]

The "update" letter doesn't wash with the original description of the shooter's location relative to his car. Sounds like a nutcase trying to get some attention.

[girlangler]

Gosh yank, I was just getting ready to ping you.

[RetiredArmy]

Roger that. But they will SWAT team us one at a time. They know they cannot just say, turn em in. I will say mine fell out of the boat into the river if they ask. They are not getting my weapons. I have a rifle that my dad got in WWII. He gave it to me before he died. If the stinking federal government thinks for one minute I am giving that rifle to them, they might as well put my @$$ in the cross hairs now and fire, because they ain't getting it.

[Vaduz]

They will it's only a matter of time.

[Smartass]

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Reject UN Gun Control

The gun control movement in America has lost momentum in recent years, as evidenced by the Democratic party’s conspicuous silence on the issue in the 2000 and 2002 elections.  In the midst of declining public support for new gun laws, more and more states have adopted concealed-carry programs.  The September 11^th terrorist attacks only made matters worse for gun control advocates, as millions of Americans were starkly reminded that we cannot rely on government to protect us from criminals.

Perhaps the biggest threat to gun rights in America today comes not from domestic lawmakers, but from abroad.  Even as support for gun control wanes at home, globalist bureaucrats are working to override national sovereignty and craft international gun laws.

For more than a decade the United Nations has waged a campaign to undermine Second Amendment rights in America.  UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called on members of the Security Council to address the “easy availability” of small arms and light weapons, by which he means all privately owned firearms. In response, the Security Council released a report calling for a comprehensive program of worldwide gun control, a report that admonishes the U.S. and praises the restrictive gun laws of Red China and France!  Meanwhile, this past June the UN held a conference with the silly title “Week of Action against Small Arms.”

It’s no surprise that UN bureaucrats, who are predominantly European and third-world socialists, want to impose gun control worldwide.  After all, these are the people who placed a huge anti-gun statue on American soil at UN headquarters in New York.

They believe in global government, and armed people could stand in the way of their goals.  They certainly don’t care about our Constitution or the Second Amendment.  But the conflict between the UN position on private ownership of firearms and our Second Amendment cannot be reconciled.  How can we as a nation justify our membership in an organization that is actively hostile to one of our most fundamental constitutional rights?  What if the UN decided that free speech was too inflammatory and should be restricted?  Would we discard the First Amendment to comply with the UN agenda?

Contrary to UN propaganda, gun control makes people demonstrably less safe, as any honest examination of criminal statistics reveals.  In his book More Guns, Less Crime, scholar John Lott demolishes the myth that gun control reduces crime.  On the contrary, Lott shows that cities with strict gun control--like Washington DC--experience higher rates of murder and violent crime.  Gun control simply endangers law-abiding people by disarming them.

More importantly, however, gun control often serves as a gateway to tyranny.  Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.  Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other right.  This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in the gun control debate.  Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical government.  (emphasis added)

 

[proud_yank]

LOL, popular thread I guess!! I like the idea of turning the UN HQ into the world's largest gun store the best. Hows the fishin been?

[proud_yank]

I think you put that quite well indeed.

If the will of the people is not inserted in a governments operation, the will exerted by the UN is tyrannical compliance.

Being the uber-bureaucracy that it is, is also what makes the UN completely useless.

Americans are citizens of the United States of America. We are not citizens of the world.

Amen!!

[girlangler]

"I like the idea of turning the UN HQ into the world's largest gun store the best. Hows the fishin been?"

Fishing has been good, when it is not storming and I can get out. We've had crazy weather this spring. I have mostly been writing about fishing (instead of actually enjoying the real thing); got too much work coming at me of late.

Yep, I can see the UN building serving as a gun store. Have one of those big gun shows :) I cring every time I think of my money going to finance this corrupt and worthless joke of an organization.

[girlangler]

"I like the idea of turning the UN HQ into the world's largest gun store the best. Hows the fishin been?"

Fishing has been good, when it is not storming and I can get out. We've had crazy weather this spring. I have mostly been writing about fishing (instead of actually enjoying the real thing); got too much work coming at me of late.

Yep, I can see the UN building serving as a gun store. Have one of those big gun shows :) I cring every time I think of my money going to finance this corrupt and worthless joke of an organization.

[Robert Teesdale]

You bet.

[philman_36]

ATF Launches Probe of UN Machineguns
Outside the UN building in New York stands a sculpture of a Colt Python with its barrel bent and twisted, a statement to the international organization’s anti-gun philosophy.

A picture is worth a thousand words...

[Seadog Bytes]

Thanks for the ping!

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"Liberty has never come from Government.   Liberty has always come from the subjects of it.

The history of Liberty is a history of resistance.   The history of Liberty is a history of

limitations  of Governmental power,  NOT the increase of it." --Woodrow Wilson.

They're coming... What will you do???

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Small Talk

UN Treaty on Your Firearms

by Don Bekeleski

Unless you have been on Mars or have not been informed through your NRA membership magazine, there is a great threat to our Bill of Rights and America’s sovereignty. The U.N. treaty to be ratified in 2006 claims our 2nd Amendment right is making the world a more dangerous place! It is a unilateral binding treaty on all countries.

I don’t know how many of you paid your cable TV supplier to see the debate on pay per view between Wayne Lapieere and Rebecca Peters, but you should have. She is the one that is spearheading this treaty. If you seen it, it should have scared the hell out of you. She commented that privately owned firearms “are the real weapons of mass destruction”. She said, “Americans should abide by the same rules as everyone else”.

That means we should turn in our weapons and give up our freedoms like other countries. Her attitude towards hunters and sport shooters was that they “should take up another sport that does not require a weapon”.

On the question of self- defense she said, “Handguns have no legitimate role in civilian hands”.

There is a conference coming up in 2006 to ratify this ‘Treaty on Small Arms’. Billionaire George Soros and six countries are heavily funding this. The countries are Great Britan, Sweden, The Netherlands, France Japan and Belgium that have contributed tens of millions of dollars with more to come. They want it so only Governments will have guns. Think back in history what happened when only the Government has guns. I’m sure the first guy that comes to mind had a short mustache and waved his right arm a lot!

For the United States to agree and go along with this treaty some future U.S. Senate body has to approve it and the President at that time has to sign it. In one sweep of the pen all your rights to gun ownership are gone. No more hunting, no more target shooting, no more self defense! It will be dialing 911, which I believe to be a government sponsored ‘Dial a Prayer”.

According to Gun Week newspaper Rebecca Peters has said opposition from the U.S. and its new Ambassador John Bolton could make the drafting of the treaty a difficult task, if not impossible. For right now thank God, we have the right person at the U.N.

This is very serious and you need to tell everyone who hasn’t heard about it. We need to watch who we elect to the Senate and the Presidency in future years. It must and can only be people who will staunchly defend our 2nd Amendment. The time to spread this news is now, because 2006 is right around the corner. It’s more than guns, it’s freedom!!

An ‘I don’t care’ attitude now could end up in a, “Don’t shoot me” plea later.

To give you an idea of what’s at stake, here’s an example of global plotting to take away your rights:

Many anti-gun individuals and groups from around the world convened in Rio de Janeiro in March, for the International Meeting on the Regulation of Civilian Ownership and Use of Small Arms. The aim of this meeting is to steer a global gun control agenda at the UN. Here’s an excerpt from the Chair’s Summary of the meeting:

Building on the principles noted in the Chair’s summary from the January 2005 meeting in Montreux and having examined the above instruments, as well as several national case studies, the experts proposed a number of principles that could form the basis for minimum standards to guide national small arms control policies and regulations:

• Civilians should be restricted from acquiring or possessing small arms designed for military use.

• Ownership of small arms should be contingent on obtaining a firearms license, which, in turn, could be based on the following minimum criteria, inter alia – meeting a minimum age requirement; lacking a relevant criminal history, including of intimate partner and family violence; existence of a legitimate reason to acquire weapons; observance of relevant gun laws as well as the safe and efficient handling of small arms.

• Small arms licenses should be time-limited and subject to periodic renewal.

• Measures should be in place to allow for the removal of small arms from owners whose licenses have been revoked or persons unfit to possess firearms.

• Small arms ammunition sales should be restricted to those with a valid firearms license, and only for ammunition suitable for the type of gun specified on the license as well as limitation on the number of rounds of ammunition allowed.

• States should ensure that adequate records are kept of all civilian-held small arms, including details of the authorized holder and unique serial number of the weapon.

• Greater co-ordination of civilian focused small arms laws and enforcement practices should be encouraged to the greatest extent possible to ensure consistent good practices within regions as well as national uniformity.

• Where feasible, States, international organizations and civil society should provide assistance and collaborate for the effective implementation of standards such as these.

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Further information:  The National Rifle Association (NRA) has an 'Alert' website up, providing more information, encouraging your participation in the discussion, and providing an easy method for you to make your opinions on the subject known to your elected representatives.  Should you wish to read more about this, or to take action, here is the link to that site:  http://www.stopungunban.org/    

 

 

 

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"No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America.  Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly..." -- George Washington (letter to Benjamin Lincoln, 29 June 1788)

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[Smartass]

Clearly, the UN is meddling in the internal affairs of the United States of America. The collecting of, taking from, depriving of, or the passing of laws that take away this nation's citizen's to own and bear arms is none of their business. Moreover, the UN is borrowing a page from the New World Order. Of which, they would love to be the owner of.

In my humble opinion, the UN should get out of the United States. They've been here in luxury, civility and safety much to long. Maybe it's time they moved to say, somewhere in the Middle east, like Jerusalem. Nothing like hands on experience. Next, we the United States should get out of the UN. Do we really need them?

[looscnnn]

Nah, move in doors for target practice.

[NRA2BFree]

Thanks for the ping! There's no reason to believe that our sorry government won't sign it. They're too scared of us to try to disarm us all by themselves, so they'll leave it up to the UN.

[philman_36]

'Hardball with Chris Matthews' for May 11
MATTHEWS: (to CRESSEY) I‘m wondering about—you know about this and the cultural sensitivity of Americans—we don‘t have gun registration in this country, we don‘t have national I.D. cards, women have a right to abortion under the grounds of privacy. It‘s all Fourth and Second Amendment stuff. Why would this not bother the American people?
Snip...SALAZAR: You know, I think that there‘s lots of ways in which we can get the information on terrorists who are operating within the country. I think at the end of the day, we all agree that we need to stop the terrorists, we need to go after the bad guys.
The fact of the matter is that most Americans are good people and our Bill of Rights is very important to protect. We don‘t require people to register their guns, we don‘t have a national identification system as you were saying, Chris.

TITLE 26 > Subtitle E > CHAPTER 53 > Subchapter B > PART I > § 5841
(a) Central registry The Secretary shall maintain a central registry of all firearms in the United States which are not in the possession or under the control of the United States. This registry shall be known as the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

Yes, we DO have registration for some types of guns. (like the ones most capable of returning a government to the people if it becomes tyrannical) Perhaps they're just unaware...

[processing please hold]

Thanks for the ping! There's no reason to believe that our sorry government won't sign it. They're too scared of us to try to disarm us all by themselves, so they'll leave it up to the UN.

I agree. But there will be hell to pay if they try to take our guns.