Posted on 05/09/2006 12:40:29 PM PDT by NapkinUser
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-CO) decried a recently-disclosed U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) practice of tipping off the Mexican military to the location of Minutemen volunteers. According to a story in this morning’s Inland Daily Bulletin, CBP notifies the Mexican government of when and where the Minutemen are planning to monitor the border and if violence is used by the Minutemen against illegal aliens. There has not been one verified instance of Minutemen volunteers using violence against illegal aliens.
“The Mexican military doesn’t exactly have a ‘good government’ reputation. The Border Patrol has documented more than two hundred incursions into the U.S by the Mexican military, and Texas sheriffs even apprehended Mexican government vehicles that were used to ferry drug runners across the border. By tipping off Mexico’s military to the Minutemen’s location, the U.S. government is asking for trouble,” said Tancredo.
“Heavily-armed military officials stationed only yards from civilians are at least intimidating. I can only surmise that the Border Patrol bureaucrats’ spying is meant to have a chilling effect on the Minutemen’s recruitment of more volunteers,” said Tancredo.
“The Minutemen haven’t been accused of breaking the law. Quite the contrary—they have gone out of their way to aid law enforcement and ensure the safety of our border. The U.S. government has no grounds upon which to stifle the Minutemen’s constitutional right to organize,” Tancredo concluded. “I want to know the legal basis for CBP informing a foreign government of the activities of private citizens who are obeying the law.”
I posted the translation -- well most of it -- it's pretty bad...
Some people do go overboard but that happens on every topic.
I don't think it is fair to lump everyone that disagrees with the administration as a troll or a marxist tool. Lot's of these guys are solid Freepers that I've seen stand up for conservative principals in many, many threads.
No, I am not going to play word games. I am honestly seeking the parts of the Constitution Bush is violating or the laws he is violating that require his impeachment or scorn. Which laws say the borders are to be secured?
There are immigration laws that say who can and who cannot come in, and the procedures for doing so, but no law comes to mind about securing the borders. I think it has just always been understood to be that way until we had, and are having, this mass invasion. Except in times of war, and we are at war now, we didn't really have a problem until the last twenty years or so.
I am not saying there is no such law, just that I can't recall one at the moment.
read my post 322 -- most of the translation is there...
I thought there were not enough border patrol people and government resources to keep the illegals out. So Tell me how and the world they have time to spy on the minute men?
Oh, we know the valid conservative posters.
We better know some others.
Not to worry.
Hey Dane!
I just sent Tancredo fifty bux for his re-election campaign in your name.
I'm going to give you a quote from when he was a speaker at the 32nd Constitutional Convention..
"I just find it so frustrating an occasion to look to the Republican party and the Democratic party and say these are the two instruments of which we are going to make some determination as to what the future will be because both parties are held in the absolute grip of corporate America. I hate to sugar coat that, but that's a fact.
The fact that the Democratic party, and forgive me if you have any particular leanings towards that party, any one of you in this room, the Democratic party to my view has lost much of its connection to its roots, its values, its traditions and its commitment to the working men and women.
We are all "DU hacks" when we march to our own drummer..understand? LOL.
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Don't take my word for any of this, but I struggled through the Spanish on the link you provided. It looks to me like the Mexican govt has petitioned the U.S. govt for the desired cooperation.
In the meantime, the Mexican govt is working on getting cooperation from local law enforcement agencies in San Diego, Brownsville, TX and Albuquerque, NM. They say they have obtained statements from LEOs in those areas denouncing the Minutemen.
Basically, what this site is is a project of the Mexican govt, to work within the United States, to discredit the Minutemen and they say they are getting some cooperation locally.
According to the claims made on the site, San Diego BP sector chief Darryl Griffen has pledged cooperation in reporting Minuteman activites, specifically in Campo, California.
They state the Mexican consulates in the U.S. are also watching the Minutemen and similar groups.
I do not see claims that Mexico has the cooperation per se of the USBP, but they have petitioned for overall cooperation. They keep using the term 'vigilantes' over and over and that, combined with the extravagant claims, makes me wonder if someone in the Mexican Foreign Affairs Dept. is just posting propaganda.
For certain, they are admitting the Mexican government is working covertly in this country to undermine the Minutemen.
Now that I would consider an act of aggression that State Dept. should respond to. But, of course, State never chastises Mexico for anything.
Got it! Thanks.
If this isn't reason to support a Tancredo campaign for president, I don't know what is.
Thanks, Carolyn. Going now.
ARTICLE IV -SECTION 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;
No problem, if you wish to give tancredo and bay buchanan money that's up to you.
Maybe bay will loan her brother pat some of that money to make another bust of himself.
"I thought there were not enough border patrol people and government resources to keep the illegals out. So Tell me how and the world they have time to spy on the minute men?"
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If your priority is to watch the minutemen and not "protect the border "then there is plenty of manpower..and thats the truth.
Please elaborate. Thanks.
and why can't our government tell the corrupt Mexican government we expect them to "cooperate" by restraining their citizens from crossing OUR order....and if not, THEY CAN GO POUND SAND?
I'm a Libertarian who believes in protecting the borders. Just wanted to get that out there before we are all painted with the same broad stroke.
SMEAR tactics? Like this one?
To: Arizona Carolyn
Lou Dobbs is a Bush hating Marxist tool. Be careful who you go to bed with. You're being used.
261 posted on 05/09/2006 4:57:51 PM CDT by Jim Robinson
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Went to 322... someone else's post.
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