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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Americanwolfsbrother

Again, not true for all illegal aliens - there was a surge in April this year for tax returns being filed by illegal aliens using Individual Taxpayer ID numbers - elementary school students (legal or not) do not need Social Security numbers either.


1,521 posted on 05/09/2006 9:46:35 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: sinkspur
I grew up North of Pensacola, FL. Pensacola has a sizable Vietnamese population, and they are just like most any other group of citizens, I've seen some locked up over the years. Anyway that's a diversion, Vietnam is two oceans away, Mexico is directly south with a land border.

As far as good will and charity. I remember a saying about the path to hell and good intentions.

The Romans were quite generous to allow the Vandals to live within their territory, don't you think? And the Vandals equally demonstrated their "good will" by serving as meat for the Roman war machine, don't you think?

I understand ideals, would that they were true. Free healthcare is an ideal. Allowing just anyone who wants to enter a country do so is an ideal, as is imposing an absolute lockdown on our borders. But disaster lies down all those paths.
1,522 posted on 05/09/2006 9:46:58 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: Texasforever

You just keep on laughing and enjoy the freedom you have left while true patriots do the hard work and save your sorry ass... at least for a while longer.


1,523 posted on 05/09/2006 9:48:44 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Peach

Oh, I didn't think you were, Peach... yes, I love JD, too... if he loses we're all going to wish he would have listened and taken on Napolitano -- I would love to have his as our Governor.


1,524 posted on 05/09/2006 9:49:36 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Peach
I came to understand that it's a problem for a lot of you in border states

Hello?! Where have you been? It's a problem in every state but Hawaii!

1,525 posted on 05/09/2006 9:50:44 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: clawrence3; Americanwolfsbrother
elementary school students (legal or not) do not need Social Security numbers

All American children are required to have Social Security numbers, almost immediately now (like within months of their births).

1,526 posted on 05/09/2006 9:50:44 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Syncro
A room with a view of the Golden Gate Bridge?

Nice!

1,527 posted on 05/09/2006 9:52:06 PM PDT by kstewskis (Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.)
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To: Texasforever
Well, changing the venue are you, okay. Would these "leaders" be sort of like this guy? Not much notice until he did this thing.
1,528 posted on 05/09/2006 9:53:11 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Peach; TigersEye
I'll just put yours down for the most asinine post of the evening.

Things can get very precarious for a Peach up on a perch.

1,529 posted on 05/09/2006 9:53:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: sinkspur
However stupid I may be I am not deliberately dishonest.

Personal observations aside, you see xenophobia because you want to see it. Xenophobia, meaning a "dislike of that which is different," is hardly what the majority of folks who want our borders secured and the flood of illegal aliens stemmed have a problem with.

FYI I am plenty old enough to remember the concerns about taking in Vietnamese refugees as well as remember how quickly those concerns were laid to rest by the very veterans who fought there. My memory is that they led the way, they had the compassion and wisdom to know these were victims in every sense and they are the ones who had the courage to speak up for them. But I'm old, my memory may not be so hot.

1,530 posted on 05/09/2006 9:54:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: La Enchiladita

Where have I been thinking immigration isn't a problem?

Turned off by the ridiculous rhetoric on this forum.

Turned off that the president, who is protecting the country and has suggested a solution that at least begins to address the problem, which is more than anyone else has ever done in my lifetime, including Reagan, is condemned at every turn.

Who would want to stop by an immigration thread to learn more and listen to the crap that gets spewed here every day? You'd have to be insane.


1,531 posted on 05/09/2006 9:54:20 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I'll keep my fingers crossed for JD; he's one of the good guys.


1,532 posted on 05/09/2006 9:54:58 PM PDT by Peach
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To: La Enchiladita
You just keep on laughing and enjoy the freedom you have left while true patriots do the hard work and save your sorry ass... at least for a while longer.

This is drama queen stuff. I appreciate the efforts of the Minutemen, but let's not act as if they're the only thing standing between freedom and slavery.

If they continue to push this phony story tomorrow, it will be clear what their motivations are.

1,533 posted on 05/09/2006 9:55:27 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: nicmarlo

The real scandal would be that State has known about this all along and has done nothing.


1,534 posted on 05/09/2006 9:55:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: La Enchiladita

That's not a threat, is it?


1,535 posted on 05/09/2006 9:56:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TigersEye

You forgot (ralph).


1,536 posted on 05/09/2006 9:56:36 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: exhaustedmomma
I don't think he has Paul Revere has had accusations from his daughter that he tried to molest her like one of the very TOP Minutemen leaders. Or that another is a Wiccan than has written books about setting up a coven. You may want to look into who is really leading the bunch.
1,537 posted on 05/09/2006 9:56:41 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: clawrence3

Accually, there is a big business of illegals using social security numbers of children.


1,539 posted on 05/09/2006 9:57:09 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: HappyFeet


The Border Patrol, and ABC says the WH has too.


1,540 posted on 05/09/2006 9:59:20 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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