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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: La Enchiladita; JustPiper; TLI
Of course, the article has negative repercussions on the Minutemen also, in terms of suspicions, allegations, etc. Yeah, just throw the article out there, Sara, and see what happens ... *crickets*

The only excuse, imho, which she has to have written this article now, seeing as how it's dated 2005, is to *harm*; this article is on the heels of the May 1st boycott, May 5th, and while the MM are en route to the White House.

I've finished the first report, a "resolution", a "statement", a recap of a particular stop. Am currently working on the report 3 (skipped over #2 for now). Let's say, I'm way less than thrilled with what Mexico is demanding from our government over private citizens in the U.S. as concerns their citizens here illegally.

1,502 posted on 05/09/2006 9:38:42 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3

That's why I linked it.

100,000 per year interior deportations.


1,503 posted on 05/09/2006 9:39:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: sinkspur
You know, I remember reading fear stories about the Vietnam boat people, who were brought to the United States in fairly significant numbers in the mid 70s (though not 12 million). ... I have no fears of bloodshed as I have a high opinion of the generosity and munificence of the majority of the American people, and the goodwill of the vast majority of the Mexican immigrants.

Omigod! Bring in the violins...sinkspur, sing us the first chorus of "Mexican border crashers are just like Vietnamese boat people" we'll pick up the refrain from there.

Does anybody know the melody to "It Takes A Village?" (barfhurlbuickchuckgag)

1,504 posted on 05/09/2006 9:39:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother; clawrence3; Americanwolf; kstewskis
But to get down to that group and "expel" the others you first have to seal the border and then start deporting those that come in contact with the law.

And stop pussy-footing with the Mexican Govt.'s demands.

1,505 posted on 05/09/2006 9:40:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3
Some illegal aliens pay taxes - some go to school so they don't have jobs or have to pay taxes.

Of course they do.... with false documents (i.e. social security, drivers license, etc). AWB

1,506 posted on 05/09/2006 9:40:10 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Minutemen - Building the fence YOUR government refuses to build.)
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To: Texasforever; La Enchiladita
Sacrifices? LMAO. This is more attention than they have received in their entire lives.

You have no idea what you are saying. Not that it matters in these stupid "debates", there are members amongst the MM who have had amble "attention" in their lives. Significant attention.

1,507 posted on 05/09/2006 9:41:16 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I hadn't heard that - thanks for the info.


1,508 posted on 05/09/2006 9:41:29 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Peach
Oh, I have no plans to vote third party, Peach. Learned that lesson in 1991 and never again. I think every Freeper needs to hang a photo of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid on their refrigerators to remind themselves why we vote GOP... now, what we can do is get good conservatives to run against some of these RINO's, that would be a positive move at the primary level, not the general election.

We are lucky because Kyl is great (IMHO) and our local representative is a good man and so far holding strong, JD came out really strong against the current situation, so I assume he joins Tancredo in the doghouse.

What I'm concerned about is the businessman running against Kyl has horrible ads running that are outright lies and you know how little everyone really pays attention, Kyl is down to something like 11 points edge and our Governor is running 30 points ahead -- I had really hoped to see Goldwater give her a better run than this --

1,509 posted on 05/09/2006 9:42:50 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Peach

Why is that? I made no asinine assertions such as "the media created all the recent interest in illegals" to paraphrase. Accurately.


1,510 posted on 05/09/2006 9:42:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: JustPiper
...what would you do if there weren't these threads to rant on, insult people and name call, what would you be doing?

I'd be posting thread after thread with long rants about illegal aliens, trying to make other FR posters feel like they're not real true conservatives and are un-American if they didn't agree with me.

Sort of like you do.

1,511 posted on 05/09/2006 9:42:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: exhaustedmomma
You have no idea what you are saying. Not that it matters in these stupid "debates", there are members amongst the MM who have had amble "attention" in their lives. Significant attention.

There sure are among some of the "leaders". Most of them would rather not bring it up though.

1,512 posted on 05/09/2006 9:43:18 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: La Enchiladita

O'reilly said calls had not been returned to his people.


1,513 posted on 05/09/2006 9:43:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: clawrence3
Maybe it's me - I'm also watching "The Deadliest Catch" on Discovery Channel.

Stay tuned, perhaps they'll mention the 'deadliest tide'. Immigration (illegal), that is.

1,515 posted on 05/09/2006 9:44:14 PM PDT by budwiesest (I don't do that much diversity.)
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To: TigersEye

I didn't say the media created all the interest in illegals. I said I didn't focus on it until the media started talking about it 24/7. You should really see someone about that reading comprehension problem you're having. It must hold you back.


1,516 posted on 05/09/2006 9:44:30 PM PDT by Peach
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To: TigersEye
You're either too young or too stupid to remember the xenophobia toward the Vietnamese.

It mirrors some of the xenophobia in the latest hysteria.

1,517 posted on 05/09/2006 9:44:41 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: HappyFeet

Do yuo always react so emotionally to a headline, when in fact, the story has been denied?


1,518 posted on 05/09/2006 9:45:21 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Peach

Sure, whatever.


1,519 posted on 05/09/2006 9:46:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I didn't mean to imply I thought you were voting third party; the second part of that post was really meant for lurkers. And I've always adored JD; he's sure not in my doghouse :-)


1,520 posted on 05/09/2006 9:46:20 PM PDT by Peach
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