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Australians Obtaining Organs From Executed Prisoners
The Epoc Times ^ | 5/04/2006 | Shar Adams

Posted on 05/08/2006 8:09:41 AM PDT by ex-Texan

Australians are going to China for organ transplants knowing the organs are from executed prisoners and the numbers are likely to increase according to transplant surgeons in Australia.

Dr Scott Campbell from the renal unit of Princess Alexandra Hospital in Brisbane, told The Epoch Times he personally knew of half a dozen patients who had been to China for kidney transplants but added that: "There is bound to be significantly more than that if you look at all the patients that have been seen by different people around the country." When asked if those patients were aware that the organs would be coming from executed prisoners in China, Dr Campbell replied: "I am fairly confident that they were aware."

China has been the subject of a number of US human rights congressional reports on organ trading and as labour camps are full of those that have been incarcerated and tortured for their political and spiritual beliefs, there are grave concerns that many have been executed prisoners to service the Chinese organ trade.

A former Chinese journalist, now living in the US, told The Epoch Times that "Organ selling is a very profitable business in China" and confirmed that Falun Gong "practitioners are killed for their organs, which are sent to the various medical facilities."

Chinese organ transplant websites are growing in number on the internet with most transplant hospitals promising minimal waiting lists as "Viscera providers can be found immediately!"

At a site for the Beijing International Medical Support Centre, four hospitals promote different transplant facilities but all state that: "The donor organs come from people that are executed in China."

The Chinese Communist Party owns all hospitals in China and is quite open about executed prisoners being used for organ donation.

Western medical professionals are told that all donors have given informed consent but Dr Campbell does not give this statement much credence.

"I am not quite sure that any process that involves the execution of a prisoner could be described as 'informed consent'," he said.

While all organ transplants are free in Australia the cost of a kidney transplant in China, as quoted from Chinese hospital websites, is $70,000 and a liver transplant $120,000.

Dr Campbell said the cost of obtaining a kidney in China was not necessarily a deterrent for Australians because many people were "in a desperate situation".

"The thing that drives it all is the availability of kidneys.

"We have a very big problem with the number of kidneys available. The numbers of donors is not growing and is, if anything, a little bit less than what it was some years ago. And yet the number of people needing kidney transplants in Australia is growing very rapidly.

"The need to increase the number of donors locally is an important problem."

Dr Campbell said he expected that the numbers of Australians seeking organs in China is likely to grow and that he and his colleagues were very concerned about the prospect of more patients receiving organs form executed prisoners.

Dr Campbell explained that there is no aftercare for foreign organ recipients in China and because all organ transplants procedures were covered by Medicare, Australians travelling overseas for an organ transplant would automatically have their aftercare requirements provided by the public health system when they returned.

"I guess the premise of [the public health system] is that you essentially treat all comers," Dr Campbell said but added "I know that I and many of my colleagues feel very uncomfortable and worry that by looking after these patients when they come back that, in some way, we may be assisting and helping to support the market for these organs."

Dr Campbell, a renal physician, said he and many other doctors find the organ trade in China "immoral" and "unethical" and would like the Federal Government to address the issue.

One way, he said, was to make it illegal in Australia for Australian citizens to obtain organs in a manner which is considered illegal in this country.

Another way is to consider whether the Australia taxpayer should fund the aftercare of Australian citizens who have received organs from executed prisoners.

"It is morally very wrong," Dr Campbell said: "I'd think that we have a legitimate right to consider whether we want to support that sort of practice being utilised by people coming back from those places."

Australian Democrats, Natasha Stott-Despoja and Andrew Bartlett have both expressed concern that Australians may be obtaining organs of executed prisoners for transplants.

Both senators told The Epoch Times they will be raising the issue in estimate committees and directly with the government when Parliament sits from May 9.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: chineseorgans; organsales; organtrade
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For all you free trade activists posting on FR: "On Sale Now! Get your discount organs now in Beijing! Hurry! Hurry!" [More reports posted here] Or, if you prefer, "Save a dime. Get in line. Shop at Wal-Mart!" The dimes you spend on Chinese goods is funding the harvest and sale of political prisoners's internal organs. Think about that the next time you get in line to save a few bucks at Wally World.
1 posted on 05/08/2006 8:09:42 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

"waste not, want not"



Doogle


2 posted on 05/08/2006 8:14:48 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: ex-Texan

"The Chinese Communist Party owns all hospitals in China and is quite open about executed prisoners being used for organ donation"

Any chance they are harvesting organs from LIVE prisoners yet?


3 posted on 05/08/2006 8:15:03 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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To: Salvation

*Ping*!


4 posted on 05/08/2006 8:15:56 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan

It would be better if these stories could be independently verified so the Chicoms can't just scream "Epoch Times = Falun Gong propaganda!"


5 posted on 05/08/2006 8:16:00 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: ex-Texan

Ah yes, news you can only find from ET.


6 posted on 05/08/2006 8:16:16 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: ex-Texan

Chineese are sick! I'm still fuming at Clinton for granting them most favored nation trading status.


7 posted on 05/08/2006 8:17:07 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: Disturbin
They also harvest organs taken from 'workers' who create too many disturbances at their slave labor camps. There are rumors about free speech on the Internet advocates losing organs as punishment. "You want to slander the government in Beijing, you lose one kidney."
8 posted on 05/08/2006 8:20:40 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan

So your use of petroleum products is indicative of your support for the Saudi Sheiks, Iranian Mullahs and Hugo Chavez? Shame on you, American hater! /sarc/


9 posted on 05/08/2006 8:23:08 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: ex-Texan
The dimes you spend on Chinese goods is funding the harvest and sale of political prisoners's internal organs.

The harvesting and sale of prisoners's internal organs hardly requires subsidy from another part of the economy. It pays for itself.

It makes perfect sense to refuse to buy chinese goods because of this evil trade - but let's not confuse the issue.

10 posted on 05/08/2006 8:23:11 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ex-Texan

Abby Normal PING!


11 posted on 05/08/2006 8:23:21 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: ex-Texan

Australians are descendants from criminals, so what's the big deal?


12 posted on 05/08/2006 8:25:38 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: ex-Texan

It is self-defeating, as those receiving the prisoners' organs are themselves likely to be infected by hostile ideologies.


13 posted on 05/08/2006 8:27:25 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: ex-Texan
I have a friend who was a doctor in China. She received a 5-year undergraduate medical degree which allowed her to practice medicine. But there were two level of doctors. Those like her and the "research" doctors. She was not allowed into the area of the hospital where they worked. . .

I'm sure that I really don't want to know the reason.

14 posted on 05/08/2006 8:30:02 AM PDT by twigs
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To: agere_contra; ExpatGator

I'm being perfectly clear. Your parsing of free trade hairs may have confused your troubled brain with logical inconsistencies.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 8:31:01 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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The dimes you spend on Chinese goods is funding the harvest and sale of political prisoners's internal organs. Think about that the next time you get in line to save a few bucks at Wally World.

This is a falacious argument. These organs are harvested for free and sold at a high price. I think that makes the organ harvesting/transplanting a self-sustaining, profit-generating operation (excuse the pun).

Do I agree with it? NO. Will this make me stop shopping at Walmart? No.

16 posted on 05/08/2006 8:34:37 AM PDT by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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To: Disturbin

> Any chance they are harvesting organs from LIVE prisoners yet?

I've got an organ donor sticker on my driver's license. While the meat is still warm, anyone is welcome to my parts who needs 'em. Same goes if I find myself terminally ill with zero quality of live.


17 posted on 05/08/2006 8:39:26 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: cloud8

In my beat Monty Python voice: "But I'm not dead yet!"


18 posted on 05/08/2006 8:41:31 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: ex-Texan
Too many of the ideas of Science Fiction are coming true these days.

It limits the ability of writers to come up with plausible darkside scenarios for fear that copycatters will act them out.

So that's why all my bad guys are girls.

19 posted on 05/08/2006 8:42:01 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (I grew up so long ago that being grown-up was more fun than being a kid!)
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To: ex-Texan

Do you, or do you you not use any petroleum products?????

Your feeble use of logic would dictate that if you do then you support those who control extraction and production (violent, ignorant and backwards Thugocracies and Mullocracies).

How's that for some non-parsing? Or in the vernacular, Parse This!


20 posted on 05/08/2006 8:46:35 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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