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Redmond Police Department Faces $1 Million Suit [woman in hypoglycemic crisis tasered by police]
KOMO 4 News ^ | 4/7/06 | KOMO Staff

Posted on 05/07/2006 12:43:59 PM PDT by seowulf

REDMOND - The Redmond Police Department is facing a $1 million lawsuit after a woman says an officer used his Taser on her during a medical emergency.

Video from the police car camera shows that something was wrong with Leila Fuchs last July when police pulled her out of her car. For nearly 10 minutes when officers first pulled up, they say she remained unresponsive.

"She's just gotten into this collision at Redmond Way and 145th -- small accident," said defense attorney James Egan.

But he says it's the decisions an officer made when Fuchs wouldn't unlock her door that has them suing the department.

Egan says his client was suffering from a diabetic episode when medics tried to get her attention.

"So the medic brings a window hammer here," Egan says, pointing to the video.

Then, Egan says an officer took matters into his own hands.

"He bashed in the passenger side window, opened the door, and immediately ordered her to open her driver side door," Egan said. "Even according to (the officer), she was dazed, catatonic, and non-responsive. At that point, he pulls his Taser out, and says if she doesn't open it, he will shoot her."

Egan says the officer used his gun and hit Fuchs with 50,000 volts of electricity.

"He didn't shoot her for one second," Egan said. "He shot her for the full five seconds… and caused her to stiffen and scream, according to his police report as this happened, and here she was suffering a medical emergency."

Police reports claim officers could initially smell the odor of alcohol in the car, but after they got Fuchs out and did a breath test, they determined there was no trace of alcohol found.

"He jumped the gun... literally," Egan said. "And that's when he tried to electrocute someone he apparently thought was intoxicated."

Calls to the Redmond Police about the video and the lawsuit were not immediately returned Saturday evening. Police records, though, back up the fact that the Taser was used and that Fuchs did not have any traces of alcohol in her system.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; biteback; diabetes; donutwatch; govwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; libertarians; police; redmond; taser; washington
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To: Cap'n Crunch

"following his departmental procedure TO THE LETTER. "

There's the letter of the law and there's a spirit to the law also.

Then there's rational thinking and common sense too. It can always be applied to most situations.


81 posted on 05/07/2006 2:49:34 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Cap'n Crunch
"Regardless if it was a tazer or an arm bar or tickling her tootsies with a feather, she had to be taken out, either for arrest or for medical treatment."

How about just unlock the door and open it? Can you explain how a taser shot's going to do that?

82 posted on 05/07/2006 2:49:38 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: maxwellp

We don't know that she wasn't.

There seems to be something going on with modern diabetes mangement.

There are several isulin using diabetics in my family and I don't remember this frequency of low blood sugar episodes in the past.

The currenrule is to test before getting into the car, get some carbs is the sugar is as low s normal...IOW drive on a slightly high sugar level.


83 posted on 05/07/2006 2:51:47 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: garyhope
"If you have any diabetic friends, be on the lookout for them seeming like they're drunk or not focusing well or not driving well, etc. and get some carbs or sugar in them. Give them peanuts, carbs, candy or soda with sugar in it, have them test their blood sugar levels right away or take them to a clinic or hospital right away."

... before they kill someone. That's what you mean, right?

Unbelievable. Did I log onto DU by mistake? Lessee ... no ... it says freerepublic.com all right.

If she is diabetic, and especially if she is driving on a road where I am, or members of my family are, driving, she better damn well be taking her medication. Or she can stay off the roads.

I do not accept your excusing this woman because "her blood sugar just up and decided to drop ... precipitously".

84 posted on 05/07/2006 2:52:25 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: seowulf
"Has anybody ever noticed how the police always smell alcohol after an accident? Some police seem to like their toys a little too much as well."

Yeah, the bastards always "smell alcohol" or say "they were acting suspicious". I used to admire the police when I was in my teen years, similar to how I admire the millitary now. As I got older and started driving they harassed me on a daily basis for no legal reason.

There was one stretch where I was pulled over 13 times in 15 days, and I never violated the law. living in a small town with bad police sux. I hear of these type things everywhere though. I've just come to realize that 99.9% of them are pathetic, small minded losers who couldn't quite make it at anything else in life so they have settled for making everyone else's life miserable.

Don't give me the argument of "who will I call when I need help". When a perp invades your home, it's your job to take care of it. The only thing the police are good for in such a situation is showing up after the fact to clean up the mess and take pictures. They also may charge you with a crime for defended yourself and your family if you don't have lots of money, or if they just don't like you for whatever reason.

85 posted on 05/07/2006 2:52:28 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: robertpaulsen

It seems to do that these day. Dunno why.


86 posted on 05/07/2006 2:55:01 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: robertpaulsen
If she is diabetic, and especially if she is driving on a road where I am, or members of my family are, driving, she better damn well be taking her medication. Or she can stay off the roads.

Did you ever know anyone who's diabetic? These things aren't an exact science - one might be taking their medication yet still occasionally develop problems based upon diet, exercise, etc.

87 posted on 05/07/2006 2:56:05 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Mordacious

Yeah, they should.


88 posted on 05/07/2006 2:56:08 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: seowulf
It sounds like the writer went largely on her lawyer's approach to the thing. To describe tasering somebody as "trying to electrocute" him is tendentious at best. Also I can imagine somebody confusing the acetone like smell from somebody in ketosis with the smell you often get from alcohol abusers.

Having said that, I don't see any justification for tasering her. We pretty much have to suspect a weapon and/or be getting a lot of belligerent behavior before our SOP calls for a taser.

89 posted on 05/07/2006 2:59:25 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: garyhope

Yeah, and I get written up if I use the wrong color of ink on a report. Even when you do everything right, you can still get sued.

I'm not ready to say this cop did something wrong until I see and read what happened, not what some lawyer, looking for his next meal, says happened.

I once was wrongly accused of assaulting some guy and breaking his elbow. I never touched the guy. Come to find out some cop was sleeping with his wife, years before I was ever on the department, and he thought it was me. This came out in the hearings.

They still gave the guy $3,000.00.


90 posted on 05/07/2006 3:00:31 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I got a question. What if the cop pulls her out of the car, she grabs the steering wheel, breaks her arm. Or the cop pulls her out of the car, she slips from his grasp, hits her head on the road and gets cut. Does she still get to sue? Or is it just because he tasers her?

If he hurt her getting out of the car, I do not see a law suit because he was trying to help he receive treatment. It would be like a good Samaritan.

When he electrocutes her, because she challenged his ego, by her being in a distressed state of mind, we have a problem. The way I see it, he treats the public as a flock to fleece, and in his mind he was acting no different than a rancher with his cattle. If this cop was as quick to write a ticket to a fellow officer for the same things he tickets the sheep for, I will stand corrected, otherwise his actions speak louder. After all if the law was meant for everyone why wouldn't a cop write a ticket to a fellow officer for not using a turn signal?

91 posted on 05/07/2006 3:01:05 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: NittanyLion
"So the real question is, should you taser someone who's verging on unconsciousness?"

As opposed to what, shooting them with a gun? Yes.

Sounds like the OPTION to do so was police policy. I've watched people on COPS who were "dazed, catatonic and nonresponsive" fly into a rage when confronted.

You're a great Monday morning quarterback. How was the cop supposed to know she wasn't drunk, on drugs, suicidal, or just plain whack-o?

92 posted on 05/07/2006 3:03:45 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mark was here

She's fortunate to not have her dog in the car if she has one, I'm sure it would be dead. The police are totally
out of control. Why do they even have tasers as they
are definitely cruel and unusual punishment. The police
can shoot anyone that is really endangering them but
not treat citizens like cattle. Disgraceful. Our
Constitution has been totally trashed.


93 posted on 05/07/2006 3:06:15 PM PDT by Tornear
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To: seowulf
He shot her for the full five seconds

What about applying to HIM the same medicine? (In addition to the generous compensation to the victiom)

94 posted on 05/07/2006 3:06:40 PM PDT by A. Pole (Second hand smoking is a major cause of global warming!)
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To: Tyr
Can you please tell me why this is so important to you? Have you got nothing to offer on this thread other than a robertpaulsen anal exam?
95 posted on 05/07/2006 3:07:11 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: krunkygirl

Mine too.


96 posted on 05/07/2006 3:08:04 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Cap'n Crunch

I was at the scene of an accident also where a guy hit a telephone pole. He was definitely drunk, or so it appeared. Funny though, there was no smell of alcohol either. As it turned out he, too, had had a diabetic attack. I would have bet anything the guy was drunk.


97 posted on 05/07/2006 3:08:22 PM PDT by ZChief
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To: NittanyLion
? These things [controllng diabetes] aren't an exact science - one might be taking their medication yet still occasionally develop problems based upon diet, exercise, etc.

The nice response: Then shouldn't we reconsider giving driver's licenses to people with diabetes?

The nasty response: I'm sure the person whose child is killed by some diabetic person having a hypoglycaemic crisis will be comforted by being told that it isn't an exact science.

I wonder if this shouldn't be considered. I don't know, I'm just wondering.

98 posted on 05/07/2006 3:08:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: CindyDawg

So can people with vertigo.


99 posted on 05/07/2006 3:11:34 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: robertpaulsen
As opposed to what, shooting them with a gun? Yes.

Yeah. The only ootions were shooting her or tasering her. Sheesh.

Sounds like the OPTION to do so was police policy.

It does? According to the article, the department did not return calls inquiring about the incident. If you have some other information, feel free to share it. Until you do, I'll assume you made that up.

I've watched people on COPS who were "dazed, catatonic and nonresponsive" fly into a rage when confronted. You're a great Monday morning quarterback.

You get all your information from TV shows? Well, I've watched Law & Order, and this seems inappropriate to me.

How was the cop supposed to know she wasn't drunk, on drugs, suicidal, or just plain whack-o?

And even if she were those things, would it be appropriate to taser a virtually unconscious person? That's the question to be answered here.

100 posted on 05/07/2006 3:12:52 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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