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Been nice knowin' ya, America
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | May 7,2006 | Dimitri Vassilaros

Posted on 05/07/2006 10:28:12 AM PDT by NorthEasterner

Been nice knowin' ya, America

By Dimitri Vassilaros TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, May 7, 2006

Will the next generation of U.S. citizens consider themselves Americans or post-Americans? Better still, why wouldn't they consider themselves post-Americans? Considering how quickly this republic is unraveling, is it too late to ask rhetorical questions?

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; globalnation; illegalimmmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; libertarians; openborders; postamerican; puppetmasters; wot
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
You young folks have got just a few years left!!!

Yeah, and in the 80's, the year 2000 was a post-apocalyptic nuclear nightmare run by machines too.

81 posted on 05/07/2006 11:55:22 AM PDT by anonymous_user (62% of repondents say they lie to pollsters.)
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To: Dane
Oh but I forgot, those evil American farmers who grow food and have evil people with Spanish surnames hired to help pick and process that food, are the demise of America as we know it, nevermind.

No one brought up surnames until you did. It is those ILLEGAL workers FROM ANYWHERE who steal from our largesse. And yes, the Farmers are evil since they break the law (current law says they should be fined $10,000 PER OCCURRANCE).

Oh and supporters of illegals are the most evil of all, since they give comfort and aid to the enemy.

82 posted on 05/07/2006 11:57:41 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty.)
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To: Brilliant
"Post-Americanism is the state of having moved beyond loyalty to the U.S.," according to Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. Mr. Krikorian believes he coined "post-American."

"Put differently, the patriot is married to America; the post-American is just shacking up."

Mark Krikorian
"Post-Americans They've Just 'Grown' Beyond Their Country,"
National Review Online, June 22, 2004
www.cis.org/articles/2004/mskoped062204.html

83 posted on 05/07/2006 11:59:37 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: FlingWingFlyer

"The DemocRATS' latest bit of rhetoric about America needing even MORE illegal immigrants to pay the Social Security benefits for the upcoming boomer baby retirements was a stroke of brilliance."

Their platform, condensed.


84 posted on 05/07/2006 12:02:28 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: MNJohnnie
Yawn. New day, same old hysterics with the same old doom and gloomy delusions. Same sorts of losers said it in the 1820s, 1850s, 1860s, 1890s, 1910s, 1930s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Funny thing. The Republic survives long after the panic stricken are rotting meat.

What we are witnessing today is unprecedented. We are being invaded. If anything, the numbers are understated.

The present level of immigration is significantly higher than the average historical level of immigration. This flow may be attributed, in part, to the extraordinary broadening of U.S. immigration policy in 1965. Since 1970, more than 30 million legal and illegal immigrants have settled in the U.S., representing more than one-third of all people ever to come to America's shores.

At the peak of the Great Wave of immigration in 1910, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. was less than half of what it is today, though the percentage of the population was slightly higher. The annual arrival of 1.5 million legal and illegal immigrants, coupled with 750,000 annual births to immigrant women, is the determinate factor— or three-fourths— of all U.S. population growth.

85 posted on 05/07/2006 12:03:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: freedumb2003
"And yes, the Farmers are evil..."

OK, now you've gone & said it. Prepare yourself to suffer the wrath of the OBL.
86 posted on 05/07/2006 12:03:26 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Dane

"I have noticed that big L Libertarians have jumped on the populist tancredo anti-hispanic bandwagon."

Try "Anti-illegal bandwagon"...to which 80+% of Americans agree...........

We here have noticed you're an illegal apologist and a race baiter.


87 posted on 05/07/2006 12:06:53 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: freedumb2003
And yes, the Farmers are evil since they break the law (current law says they should be fined $10,000 PER OCCURRANCE)

The below person in your words, is evil, evil. How dare he leave tort law to grow food.

88 posted on 05/07/2006 12:07:22 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

"I have noticed that big L Libertarians have jumped on the populist tancredo anti-hispanic bandwagon."

Try "Anti-illegal bandwagon"...to which 80+% of Americans agree...........

We here have noticed you're an illegal apologist and a race baiter.


89 posted on 05/07/2006 12:07:38 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dane

"I have noticed that big L Libertarians have jumped on the populist tancredo anti-hispanic bandwagon."

Try "Anti-illegal bandwagon"...to which 80+% of Americans agree...........

We here have noticed you're an illegal apologist and a race baiter.


90 posted on 05/07/2006 12:08:14 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Uh dude, do you work for Hormel? Since you are spamming(i.e replies #87, 89, & 90).


91 posted on 05/07/2006 12:10:27 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: NorthEasterner
Great article. You nailed it exactly right. The GOP better get their act together and start massive raids with deportation, and put employers who hire illegals in jail with heavy fines, or they will ALL lose their seats in the next election!! IF they are so stupid to grant amnesty under ANY name they want to call it, they are going to lose their seats anyway because the illegals have been told that Bush and the GOP are evil, and signed up to vote DemonRAT. They will NEVER support Republicans and those who believe they will are kidding themselves!!
92 posted on 05/07/2006 12:10:45 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (NO GUEST WORKER PLAN! IT IS REALLY AMNESTY, SHAMNESTY OR SCAMNESTY - IT IS THE SELL OUT OF AMERICA!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

THIS is an example of why my son signed on the dotted line.

Not the crybaby nambie pambie pussies who will sit on their hands pouting in the corner on election day.

Thank you.

I'm getting nauseated reading some of these threads lately.


93 posted on 05/07/2006 12:10:50 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: NorthEasterner
Keen observations, NE. Several excellent quotes in your article. Thanks for the link. Here's one I like:

"Americans should remember that, although we are the land of opportunity, those opportunities -- especially economic rewards -- come with sacrifice, not entitlement." Selina Zito

I don't have the resources, but I think we need a website for the CNGO that focusses more on solutions apart from what we can expect government to respond to. They know the truth of the matter, that the Republic may be history in a few weeks or months, but seem powerless to stop the erosion. Because of their low numbers and non-key positions, I'm sure.

Certainly work to put more conservatives in government, but that is going to take a long time. The panic people are feeling now -- and writing about, may be a sign that time has run out for remedy through the political process.

We're talking the survival of our national Sovereignty here. And perhaps our personal survival as well, for there are a number that will not go blindly into the night.

It's upon us, and I'm sure the uglies in California (and elsewhere across the nation) don't think what they are doing is just street theatre. It's just a warm-up before the 'games' to test their numbers and solidarity.

94 posted on 05/07/2006 12:11:36 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Glad you liked, if you want check out my other 'stuff' i was embedded on the Border last month and wrote about it, acutally have written a lot about the Border and the Immigration issues which is interesting since i live in Pittsburgh, but i contend what happens on the border does not stay on the border, it affects all of us

here goes
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/

cheers


95 posted on 05/07/2006 12:14:34 PM PDT by NorthEasterner (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/)
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To: beyond the sea

"America dies, that's what it is doing."

No, it's an attempted murder.


96 posted on 05/07/2006 12:16:47 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Sept 11th was perpetrated by GOOD MUSLIMS www.prophetofdoom.com)
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To: MNJohnnie
...Same sorts of losers said it in the 1820s, 1850s, 1860s, 1890s, 1910s, 1930s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s...

the Republic died a little in each of those time periods, and its slow death continues. the founding fathers would probably not even recognize our government.

those that understand our slow demise aren't panicked, they're popping corn and watching it all go uncontrollably down. the ones panicked are the ones who had a revelation and realize how much liberty we've lost and how morally vacant we've become.

97 posted on 05/07/2006 12:18:49 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Dane

He didn't hire anyy illegals.

Eb was born in Pixley, near Hooterville.

How nice of you to once again expose yourself. You ut up strawmen faster than most people can walk to the restroom (which is where your strawmen belong).

Would you, FOR ONCE, please argue honestly instead of misrepresenting what people say?

God, how far do you think your Pet Iguana status will get you?


98 posted on 05/07/2006 12:26:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty.)
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To: NorthEasterner

Thanks again. Sorry I mis-spelled your name. (Slaps forhead!)


99 posted on 05/07/2006 12:27:50 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Blake#1

"The opportunities that will emerge for wealth building in North American in the next ten years is mind "bogling". Freepers, you may have to move to take advantage of these opportunities. Good luck and God speed!"

The problem with all that is is they are using our tax money
to build up the infrastructure in Mexico and central America. These countries have such a long history of graft and corruption that people from there do not share our understanding of how our government is supposed to work. They are first in line to apply for government benefits.

To make the USA, Mexico and Canada into some semblance of the EU would require further weakening of the constitution.
I for one am not willing to trade our constitution for rule by WTO type organizations under the UN.


100 posted on 05/07/2006 12:31:08 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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