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Been nice knowin' ya, America
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | May 7,2006 | Dimitri Vassilaros

Posted on 05/07/2006 10:28:12 AM PDT by NorthEasterner

Been nice knowin' ya, America

By Dimitri Vassilaros TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, May 7, 2006

Will the next generation of U.S. citizens consider themselves Americans or post-Americans? Better still, why wouldn't they consider themselves post-Americans? Considering how quickly this republic is unraveling, is it too late to ask rhetorical questions?

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; globalnation; illegalimmmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; libertarians; openborders; postamerican; puppetmasters; wot
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To: NorthEasterner
[ Considering how quickly this republic is unraveling, is it too late to ask rhetorical questions? ]

No thats not accurate.. consider how George Bush is unraveling this republic.. it is not done in a vacuum.. its being done ON PURPOSE.. Both parties are full of distrust for their leaders.. on PURPOSE.. For WHAT?.. Ah! for what?.. Thats almost bibical in proportions that question..

And as the democrats ATTACK HIM, the party faithfull gather together even tighter to aid the unraveling..

BRILLIANT!... simple brilliant as a plan..

21 posted on 05/07/2006 10:50:04 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Mercat

The Irish did save civilization. But the guy who wrote that book is unfortunately unwilling to admit that it was Irish and Anglo-Saxon MISSIONARIES who did the job. I.e., Europe was saved by the reintroduction of Christian civilization from the furthest fringes of Europe.

It's too bad he gets it wrong like that.


22 posted on 05/07/2006 10:50:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gondramB

I see you missed the 50's. Bummer.


23 posted on 05/07/2006 10:50:18 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: beyond the sea

"I am glad I'm 59 and not a child in this nation now.

This country and its leaders are acting like filth to the memories and sacrifices of The Founding Fathers and of others.

It disgusts me. I'd hate to be a child now!"




This is exactly now I and many I know feel.


24 posted on 05/07/2006 10:50:50 AM PDT by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: beyond the sea
If we elect people strong on national security and pro US Sovereignty in 06 and 08 then we may just win yet.
25 posted on 05/07/2006 10:52:17 AM PDT by Xenophon450 (Behead those who say Islam is violent)
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To: gondramB
We'll get through it

We have never been in vaded by an occupying force of 10-20% of our population size before.

If the Bush Amnesty plan (let's not even talk about the McCain/Kennedy plan) goes through, we will have an invasion force of 30-40 MILLION, all of which hold loyalty NOT to the USA, her laws, language, culture morals, NOTHING.

THAT will be the end of America.

26 posted on 05/07/2006 10:52:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty.)
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To: beyond the sea
What a surprise. I am glad I'm 59 and not a child in this nation now. This country and its leaders are acting like filth to the memories and sacrifices of The Founding Fathers and of others. It disgusts me. I'd hate to be a child now!

Agreed. My grandparents had to take and oath when they LEGALLY entered the once great United States of America. It went someting like this:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen.”(US Oath of Allegiance)

27 posted on 05/07/2006 10:53:04 AM PDT by p23185 (Being trashed by the Stone Age Press should be worn as a badge of honor by Repubs and Conservatives)
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To: llevrok
Considering the continent is called "North America" We will always been known as "Americans" no matter what kind of totalitarian communist dictatorship it may become. Whether there will be such a thing as "The United States of America" is another thing however. We might revert to being called a Dakotan, or a Ohioan, Texan, etc.
We citizens of the USA mistakenly call ourselves by the continent name rather than citizens of the USA.
28 posted on 05/07/2006 10:54:21 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NorthEasterner

The leaders in America consider themselves "leaders of the Free World", not just of the United States. This mindset began after WW II, grew during the Cold War, and has continued to evolve into the current Globalist perspective.

I think that we are beyond the point where US government, finance, business, etc. leaders can regain a sense of exclusive loyalty to the United States.

That will happen only after other countries assert themselves and roll back the United States' influence around the world.


29 posted on 05/07/2006 10:55:28 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: beyond the sea

>>I see you missed the 50's. Bummer.<<

It sure looked like fun on Happy Days but with no internet, no Southpark and with segregation I couldn't have been happy.


30 posted on 05/07/2006 10:55:28 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: beyond the sea

What if however you were a child now?


31 posted on 05/07/2006 11:00:11 AM PDT by Xenophon450 (Behead those who say Islam is violent)
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To: NorthEasterner
Let's see, the average American knows more about American Idol than the Constitution or the separation of powers. Hence, the belief that it is DC's responsability to look after healthcare and education. Illegals have no loyalty to this country, while many legals (whether from Europe, Asia, or Latin America) seem to miss the socialism of the countries they fled.

I'm optimistic. America will change, but we will not become "post-America." America was a VASTLY different place culturally 100 years ago, but us in the remnant have fought and will continue to fight to preserve our Republic against populism, socialism, and multiculturalism.

32 posted on 05/07/2006 11:00:22 AM PDT by Clemenza (If you don't trust the government to buy your groceries, why trust it to educate your children?)
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To: beyond the sea
This country and its leaders are acting like filth to the memories and sacrifices of The Founding Fathers and of others. It disgusts me. I'd hate to be a child now!

I like Mark Krikorian's definition of a post-American.

"Let me be clear what I mean by a post-American. A post-American may actually still like America, but the emotion resembles the attachment one might feel to, say, suburban New Jersey – it can be a pleasant place to live, but you're always open to a better offer. The post-American has a casual relationship with his native country, unlike a patriot. Put differently, the patriot is married to America; the post-American is just shacking up."

Mark Krikorian
"Post-Americans They've Just 'Grown' Beyond Their Country,"
National Review Online, June 22, 2004
www.cis.org/articles/2004/mskoped062204.html

33 posted on 05/07/2006 11:00:34 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: gondramB

In the past we have always had to courage to face our major problems and stand up for what America has always stood for, no matter how tough we had to be it was worth it for the good of the country.

I agree that we can face up to the problems of today and we are able to solve them. I just hope we have enough guts to do so.


34 posted on 05/07/2006 11:00:40 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: freedumb2003
>.If the Bush Amnesty plan (let's not even talk about the McCain/Kennedy plan) goes through, we will have an invasion force of 30-40 MILLION, all of which hold loyalty NOT to the USA, her laws, language, culture morals, NOTHING.<<

I oppose amnesty in any form. But we're not talking about eliminating immigration just making sure that immigration continues to be diverse from all over the world instead of all from Mexico. We've had big problems before - this country is incredibly reliant. I have confidence.
36 posted on 05/07/2006 11:02:40 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: beyond the sea
"What a surprise. I am glad I'm 59 and not a child in this nation now."

Me too. But, maybe things need to get bad before they get better. We have war in our living memory, even those our age that didn't fight most likely had a father or grandfather, uncle who did have to fight for what we have today.
Maybe they need those same experiences to appreciate what they had, and maybe then they can have them again.
Then a few generations later they will be sitting where we are now cursing their ofspring for throwing it all away.

The cycle of life?

37 posted on 05/07/2006 11:04:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lessismore

The problem with that, and it's been revealed MANY times by history, is that if WE don't take the lead in stopping opression, who will??

DO you HONESTLY think France or Russia is going to take the lead in standing up to Iran?? In the end, we will have to do it, ALONE AGAIN, becasue the costs of NOT doing so, outweigh the costs of action.....


38 posted on 05/07/2006 11:05:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism- What A Pagan Religion......)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Yawn. New day, same old hysterics with the same old doom and gloomy delusions. Same sorts of losers said it in the 1820s, 1850s, 1860s, 1890s, 1910s, 1930s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Funny thing. The Republic survives long after the panic stricken are rotting meat."

I believe it's quite different now. In the 1890's you didn't have Irish coming here with the goal to make the U.S. an Irish Republic. I believe most Muslims would like the U.S. to become an Islamic Republic some day and the illegals demanding "Reconquista." Things are different in the 21st century.
39 posted on 05/07/2006 11:06:07 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: HiJinx

ping


40 posted on 05/07/2006 11:06:33 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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