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Jury has verdict in Moussaoui case! UPDATE: Sentenced to Life in Prison

Posted on 05/03/2006 12:39:24 PM PDT by BladeLWS

Just flashed on Fox, jury has a verdict, to be read at 4:30PM EST!


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To: Jim Noble

Of course, that is what I meant to say. I didn't know we could go so far back into the past to try to make it right!


1,161 posted on 05/03/2006 5:44:55 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: agincourt1415

It's really shocking. I can't imagine what they were thinking.


1,162 posted on 05/03/2006 5:47:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Moussaoui is going to be a threat as long as he's alive.

Exactly. Far too many Americans are both naive about prisons and muddled in their thinking about the necessity of the death penalty in cases like these.

1,163 posted on 05/03/2006 5:52:16 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: livius

They were thinking that they were COWARDS!!!!


1,164 posted on 05/03/2006 5:52:52 PM PDT by Pakeman (I'm 1/2 french 1/2 german. I don't know whether to attack or surrender!)
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To: Carling
I say he gets put in with the general prison population one day a year. September 11 works for me.

He could just as easily be cheered by the prison population as anything else.

1,165 posted on 05/03/2006 5:53:22 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
You're exactly right. We should all remember Sheikh Omar and what he was able to do (with the Communist Lynne Stewart's help) while in a federal prison. And what others did to try to get him out.

From “Discover the Networks”:

LYNNE STEWART

Their friendship, along with Stewart’s counsel, continued after Rahman was imprisoned at the Federal Medical Center in Rochester, Minnesota. That is where Stewart, a self-proclaimed “radical activist attorney” who supporters argue is no more than a kindly 62-year-old grandmother, crossed the line into criminality. Throughout 2000, FBI agents, working under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), secretly videotaped Stewart’s legal visits with Rahman and wiretapped telephone conversations between the two. Due to federal authorities’ concerns over Rahman’s attempts to issue fatwahs and direct further the Islamic Group’s activities from prison, Stewart had to agree to a Special Administrative Measure (SAM) in order to gain access to him. The SAM meant that Stewart could only talk to Rahman about legal matters and barred her from conveying messages from the Sheikh to anyone in the outside world, including his family, friends and the media. The SAM did, however, allow an Arabic translator, Mohammed Yousry, to accompany Stewart on her visits with the Sheikh.

It was through Yousry that Rahman, according to a 19-page indictment issued by federal agents, delivered messages in Arabic to a Staten Island-based postal worker named Ahmed Abdel Sattar. While Yousry was a go-between for Rahman and Sattar, Sattar in turn facilitated communication between Rahman and Islamic Group representatives in the Middle East. Sattar, through faxes and telephone conversations, informed Islamic Group members abroad of the Sheikh’s directives and desires; they in turn carried them out.

Despite the Sheikh’s incarceration, the Islamic Group still considers him its sole spiritual leader, a fact made brutally clear in 1997 when six assassins shot and stabbed 58 tourists and four Egyptians to death in Luxor, Egypt. Members of the Islamic Group later claimed responsibility for this murderous rampage, saying it was done to force authorities to release Rahman from prison in the United States. Not to be outdone, Osama bin Laden and a few of his fellow Al-Qaeda operatives appeared on Al-Jazeera television in September 2000 vowing to wage a jihad to end Rahman’s incarceration (one of the men extolled viewers to “avenge your Sheikh” and “go to the spilling of blood”). The suicide bombing of the American navy destroyer U.S.S. Cole occurred just one month after this broadcast. That attack, which took place in Yemen and killed over 17 U.S. sailors, was explained by Sattar’s Mid-east contacts as a warning to the U.S. government to free Rahman.

The messenger role played by both Yousry and Sattar made the two irreplaceable cogs in the Islamic Group’s militant mission. But without Stewart, correspondence with the Sheikh would have been nonexistent. Stewart not only allowed Yousry to communicate privately with the Sheikh in Arabic, she encouraged and actively aided the two men’s efforts to conduct IG business behind bars. An F.B.I. affidavit prepared by agent Kimberley Whittle detailed the cunning measures Stewart resorted to during her prison visits in order to protect Rahman and assist the Islamic Group’s homicidal agenda. According to the affidavit, Stewart “made random comments out loud for the [prison] guards to hear in order to conceal the real conversation” between Rahman and Yousry. During one such exchange, Stewart—all the while pretending to take notes in her legal pad—misled nearby guards by loudly inserting the nonsensical phrase, “Yes, the um…I am talking to you about…him going out on a, uh, chocolate eh…heart attack here” into a discussion between Rahman and Yousry. A wiretap captured Stewart, Rahman and Yousry joking afterwards about Stewart’s deception, with the aging Leftist lawyer saying she could “get an award for it,” and the Sheikh adding, “as long as the government is using secret evidence we will use secret doves.”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.com/individualProfile.asp?indid=861


1,166 posted on 05/03/2006 6:07:33 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: BladeLWS

This is disgusting. Shame on that jury. They are scum.


1,167 posted on 05/03/2006 6:17:09 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: BladeLWS

Life in prison is a far worse punishment. Execution would have made him a martyr. It's what he wanted, so I say we deny his request.


1,168 posted on 05/03/2006 6:18:14 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: onyx
1 juror found that his conduct in jail has been good.

Banging my head on table in disgust. We know from previous experience he is about as much a threat alive in prison as anywhere. Remember the blind Sheik? Yea that's just great. If they put him in the general population in prison a sizable portion will protect him and see him as a leader. Islam is prospering behind those walls. For the security of the nation this man needs to be alone as in no outside contact other than guards. Make what he saw in TV today be the world as he remembers it for the rest of his life then. Let his knowledge of the news outside of the prison walls never be acquired. Do this and completely isolate him from any human contact and he'll be jello in about 10 years. Let him go mad.

1,169 posted on 05/03/2006 6:21:23 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: BladeLWS

To all those who go, "Oh, but we'd make him a martyr. Wahhh!" So? Our legal system should not be acknowledging his beliefs in the first place. It matters not if he believes that the moon god will give him a special place in heaven. What matters is our laws and customs. By giving him "mercy" and a pass from our laws, we are acknowledging the legitimacy of his beliefs. It's disgusting, and that jury is pure, unadulterated scum.


1,170 posted on 05/03/2006 6:25:42 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: BladeLWS

a dark day in the united states.


1,172 posted on 05/03/2006 6:44:49 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Carling

but he won't be, he'll be just fine in the prison in Colorado.


1,173 posted on 05/03/2006 6:45:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I for one am glad that he has to sit in that jail day in and day out...worse punishment you could give a person.


1,174 posted on 05/03/2006 6:50:24 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: oceanview

Agreed. An extremely dark day. More proof that our country is going downhill fast.


1,175 posted on 05/03/2006 6:52:00 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Not giving him the death penalty will be interpreted as a sign of weakness by us. Watch: when an American is held hostage, the Islamofascists will demand the release of this clown or they will behead the hostage.


1,176 posted on 05/03/2006 6:56:24 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: NinoFan
"This is disgusting. Shame on that jury. They are scum."

What's disgusting is for one American (assuming you are one) calling other Americans "scum" for doing their long and thankless duty as jurors on a difficult case. I might not agree with their decision, or even the reasons some of them have given for their decision, but it is clear they took their duty seriously and thought long and hard about their decision.

I can think of nothing true scum like Moussaoui would celebrate more than Americans attacking each other because some want him dead now and some want him to live a miserable life in prison until his death later.

For giving the enemies of America reason to think Americans will attack each other for any ludicrous reason, shame on you.
1,177 posted on 05/03/2006 6:57:07 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Soul Seeker
I want those damn jurors responsible for this verdict to show their faces now.

Or at least reveal your DU handles.

1,178 posted on 05/03/2006 6:57:50 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Concho

He won't be in the general population. He will be in isolation with Moslem religious services piped in. He has called us wusses and he is right. This is what happens when you put a terrorist before the average criminal trial jury. They thought he had had a "bad childhood".


1,179 posted on 05/03/2006 6:58:25 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Bahbah
Oh FGS, they felt sorry for him because he had a bad childhood.

WTF?? That sounds like a bad parody of DUmmie babble.

1,180 posted on 05/03/2006 6:59:27 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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