Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog
New York, N.Y. In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her fathers mouth were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: Youre my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.
VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her fathers, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.
When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says Nice try, then says: Im not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.
Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French. She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family, and it always strikes me as Yeah, of course we do. It was very surprising to me that people would think we didnt.
When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, I am. I dont even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it. Asked what he would have for breakfast at Noras Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: Id probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns, then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. The day I go fishing, I get off my diet, he says. At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were present tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.
Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.
Purdum asks Cheney if, during his darkest night, he has even a little doubt about the administrations course. No, he tells Purdum. I think weve done what needed to be done. Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.
Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process. When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but thats not why Im here.
Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheneys motorcade varied its daily path. And he said, Yeah, we take different routes so that The Jackal cant get me, West tells Purdum. And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, Whats that? Its not very roomy in here. And [Cheney] said, No, because its a chemical-biological suit, and he looked at it and said, Robin, theres only one. You lose.
Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be? Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. I guess I would like to believe, he says, without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that hes only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.
Gerald Ford tells Purdum: He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances. Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, Times change, and people change as a result of that.
If youre looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis, Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. Its not quite like any other job.
The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.
Right after he fashioned a whip and drove the money lenders from His Fathers house? Or before He called the Pharisees empty tombs?
Mt 10: 34-35
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter in law against her mother in law - a mans enemies will be the members of his household."
Terry's response is more understandable, and more normal. That is, if your child becomes a vocal, in-everyone's-face, promote-immorality activist.
Right, no one can assume the role of another.
I do now :0)
What you say you'd do is fine. But please understand that in the eyes of the left you too are a homophobe!
You mean Janet Reno wasn't born that way???
You mean ugly? Yes...
At the very time of that interview, she was living in living quarters provided by her Dad.
He never stopped talking to her. It was the other way around for some limited amount of time.
Her scholarship to Brown is being picked up by some gay-oriented foundation.
You really shouldn't believe what you read in the MSM, especially on things like this.
They just might have an agenda, you know?
Uhmmm...yeah.
So the fact that millions of children in schools are being subjected to homosexual indoctrination means nothing to you.
We're all sinners. Every one of us.
I have heard of the Taleban wing of the republican party. I would assume that the Taleban wing love the quotes you posted. However, those who focus on love and forgiveness question whether Jesus ever uttered such. It does not fit with the body of His teaching.
You are welcome, of course, to your ideology of condemnation and attack. But it is NOT whar Jesus taught. God is Love. You cannot change the truth of that.
"The Gay Agenda has no effect on me or my personal life. I enjoy sex with women and one woman in particular(my wife). If you don't like people having sex with the same gender, then don't do it! Simple as that."
Other logical statements:
If you don't like abortions, don't have one.
If you don't like meth freaks committing mayhem, don't snort (or whatever you do with in) meth.
If you don't like millions of illegal aliens swamping the countryside, don't - hmm, don't live where they're invading? Don't be one?
So what if the rest of the country is turning into Sodom and Gomorrah. Big deal if thousands of kids are being molested, seduced and/or recruited into the "gay" life. It's their problem, you're okay.
You can believe a very mixed up kid being manipulated by very clever leftwing activists under the glare of national media attention, or you can believe me. Your choice. Or, you can pretend to believe her, since you hate my guts. I don't care. Why don't you just leave them alone? It's Mary Cheney that's peddling a book.
I wasn't believing it - it's CBS afterall. :) I didn't, however, find anywhere denying she said it. It is quoted from her blog. Is that not true?
I think my #494 should answer your question.
Let's go over this again. Matthew is quoting Jesus, who quotes Isaiah. So you are saying that Jesus is God, correct?
You haven't found what Jesus said, so you don't know what He said. You found what Paul and John said.
You haven't found what Jesus said either. You found what Matthew said He said... If your quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of Matthew is valid, the quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of John is equally valid. If Jesus words are the words of God, they are that both in Matthew, in Mark, in Luke, and in John (and in Revelation, and in Acts, and ...) You must either allow both equal vallidity, or reject both as being the words of man...
Explain your logic in accepting the words of Jesus as the words of God when recorded for us by the pen of the Apostle Matthew, and rejecting the words of Jesus as the words of man when recorded for us by the pen of the Apostle John please.
Let's hope not. It would be pretty scary to think that a lot of Freepers would listen to their sixteen?,(junior in high school)tell them she broke up with her girlfriend,skipped school,ran a red light and crashed the family car and then babble about hoping she was going to be happy and loving her anyway.
I think or hope that most Freepers would act like parents with a modicum of intelligence and a sense of responsibility and after grounding her for the semester,taking away car privileges until graduation and forbidding intimate,exclusive relationships with boys or girls until she graduated from high school,tell her they will always love her but her behavior was not in her best interests or that of society. After that I would say "now lets sit down and talk about what we did that caused you to act like you're acting.Maybe we have been doing something wrong".
I'm not trying to pick at you by my last post. I just thought that if you had some written article or something denying that statement by Ms. Keyes, then by all means, let's post it! You want us to take your word for something, but.... you started the mis-trusting thing by your post #186. You were basically calling me a liar. I ignored it. Then you post a "garbage in garbage out" accusation at another poster because they read the same article I had. If you say you know the Keyes well enough to know what has been said is untrue, then fine, I'll except that. However, you need to do you part and stop insinuating the rest of us are liars.
Fine. If you would look at your child, that you have raised and loved since the beginning of their life, through all their tears and laughter and 'cast them out' because they're gay, that would be between you and your conscience. If I had to make that decision, I certainly know what my reaction would be...
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