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To: spunkets
Matt quotes God and God quotes Isaiah with authority. The authority of the passages I gave you is greater than any of the passages you gave me.

Let's go over this again. Matthew is quoting Jesus, who quotes Isaiah. So you are saying that Jesus is God, correct?

You haven't found what Jesus said, so you don't know what He said. You found what Paul and John said.

You haven't found what Jesus said either. You found what Matthew said He said... If your quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of Matthew is valid, the quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of John is equally valid. If Jesus words are the words of God, they are that both in Matthew, in Mark, in Luke, and in John (and in Revelation, and in Acts, and ...) You must either allow both equal vallidity, or reject both as being the words of man...

Explain your logic in accepting the words of Jesus as the words of God when recorded for us by the pen of the Apostle Matthew, and rejecting the words of Jesus as the words of man when recorded for us by the pen of the Apostle John please.

497 posted on 05/02/2006 8:54:36 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz
"So you are saying that Jesus is God, correct?"

Correct.

"You haven't found what Jesus said either. You found what Matthew said He said.

What Matt attributed to Jesus, in the form of the quote is the equivalent of the words coming right out of God's mouth.

"If your quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of Matthew is valid, the quote from the lips of Jesus via the PEN of John is equally valid."

That's correct.

"If Jesus words are the words of God, they are that both in Matthew, in Mark, in Luke, and in John (and in Revelation, and in Acts, and ...)"

Nope. Quotes only appear in the Gospels, outside a quiz to Paul on why He was being persecuted and some travel orders.

"You must either allow both equal vallidity, or reject both as being the words of man."

The Bible is about God, who He is and what He holds. No writings contained within it can overrule a direct quote from God. That is the simple truth.

"...rejecting the words of Jesus as the words of man when recorded for us by the pen of the Apostle John please."

I didn't reject them. I said they were the words of John regarding God. They are not God stating explicitly the condition for salvation/damnation. God gave a complete fundamental explanation of the matter of salvation/damnation. You can not understand John 3:16, or any other passage w/o reference to what God said about the matter.

All passages in the Bible are not of equal weight. I already gave you the case of God explaining a particular law Moses gave and how God denied it came from Him. You failed to address it. That passage was given directly to you by God, so that you would know all passages are not equal. 2Tim3:16 was given, so that you could learn. It has nothing to do with the weight, meaning, or ultimate source of any passage. Here it is, 2 Tim 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Where does it say all scripture is equal? This says it's useful for teaching and that's it. The rest is up the reader. It's not phrase salad, where you can pick and choose amongst equal phases to form anything and call it correct, right, or the truth. It must make coherent rational perfectly logical sense.

512 posted on 05/02/2006 9:45:20 PM PDT by spunkets
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