Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog
New York, N.Y. In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her fathers mouth were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: Youre my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.
VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her fathers, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.
When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says Nice try, then says: Im not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.
Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French. She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family, and it always strikes me as Yeah, of course we do. It was very surprising to me that people would think we didnt.
When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, I am. I dont even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it. Asked what he would have for breakfast at Noras Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: Id probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns, then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. The day I go fishing, I get off my diet, he says. At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were present tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.
Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.
Purdum asks Cheney if, during his darkest night, he has even a little doubt about the administrations course. No, he tells Purdum. I think weve done what needed to be done. Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.
Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process. When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but thats not why Im here.
Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheneys motorcade varied its daily path. And he said, Yeah, we take different routes so that The Jackal cant get me, West tells Purdum. And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, Whats that? Its not very roomy in here. And [Cheney] said, No, because its a chemical-biological suit, and he looked at it and said, Robin, theres only one. You lose.
Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be? Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. I guess I would like to believe, he says, without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that hes only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.
Gerald Ford tells Purdum: He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances. Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, Times change, and people change as a result of that.
If youre looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis, Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. Its not quite like any other job.
The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.
No you did not and whatever verses you posted do not change the meaning of a direct quote whatsoever.
"I ask again (since you did not answer the question): your criteria for determinimg what is and is not God's word is....?"
You rearranged the words of a prior post to someone else. That is how you posed this question. I take the word's of God directly, then do I attempt to understand other scipture. God came here to teach. In order to know what He taught, who He is and what He is about, I'll go to the source. Whatever anyone else has to say, I'll reference back to the source. If you learn from God, then you can understand the word of God. There is no other way.
Matthew 13:34
Jesus spoke all these things to the crowd in parables; he did not say anything to them without using a parable.
Matt 13:10-17
The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"
He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[Isaiah 6:9,10]
But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
Perhaps you think only God speaks in parables and that Moses and Paul spoke differently. They did not. Matt 19:7-9
"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
Had God not said this, adulters would be writing off their spouses according to the hardness in their hearts and justifying it by God and Moses. The same goes for the actions justified by what Paul, or some other prophet said. This is another passage that expands on the fundamental passage regarding damnation, which no one has posted.
The homosexual activists and their assistants have MADE it our business. If they kept their private sex lives to themselves, no one would know or care.
If you don't see this, you either just woke up from a 25 year coma or you don't mind the gay agenda.
I think that is called creating God in their own image(g). Some people really, really, really want God to be mean and punitive I think.
Ok, I'll give you that one. I guess I was referring to another post about judgement day, but did a poor job of telling you that. lol Ok, I forgot to say it completely.
You're right - a person true to God must show that in thought and deed. That's why I have a hard time with people trashing other people because they don't think they are Christian enough. Although I can't 'see' their thoughts, I think acting that way is a bad deed.
In theory you are correct. Except I have a feeling that you --yes even you -- are incorrigible in sin. I bet there are times at work or at home when you put the idol of money before God, and then try to justify it to yourself. I bet there are times when you put love of country before God's commandments, and then try to justify it. The worst thing is, I bet you still justify it to yourself.
We all do.
" One doesn't come to Jesus by quitting sin. One quits sin by coming to Jesus."
I'm standing. I'm applauding.
That's it exactly. 2 Cor. 5:17!
(That's why 1 Cor. 6:11 is there - although most stop reading with verse 9 and 10!)
Oh man, when I saw this picture, I wondered for a moment who the handsome guy was! This story is great however, as long as you ignore the reporter!
Read that sentence again, won't you?
There are many fine organizations who help people leave the "gay" life. With compassion, understanding and professionalism. Do they get a platform from which to speak? Does the MSM do stories on them (other than hit pieces?) Does the homosexual rights movement allow them to have a place in the public eye? No. The homosexual activists protest when they hold meetings, up to and including violence.
There are plenty of individuals and people who want to and do help homosexuals but the homosexual activists don't want the truth to be told - that homosexuals can change.
I can't imagine there'd be a big enough gay population in most second tier cities to form a parade much less spectators to line up and watch it.
The school thing is local and up to the community or majority of the community.
Sink I can't. My ONLY authority is Scripture. I have none by myself.
Because too many throw out Scripture quotes as if to say "See? What do you think of my knowledge of Scripture?" They use it as a substitute for rational thought.
(That IS the logical conclusion to be drawn from your post...)
You must have the ability to understand that homosexuality is no more or less than a sin than greed, etc. Yet, it seems to get alot more attention. Why?
If Cheney's daughter were an ambitious and greedy businesswoman, would we even be having this conversation? If not, why not?
Her partner was also on stage at the Victory Rally at the Ronald Reagan Building, she has also attended official dinners at the White House with Mary Cheney.
They use it as a substitute for rational thought.
Uh, it's based on belief. It isn't supposed to be rational.
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