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"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney
Drudge Report ^ | May 2, 2006 | Drudge

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog

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To: NoCmpromiz
"According to I Timothy 3:16 (and 2 Peter 3:14-16 which equates Paul's writings with 'the other scriptures') I did give a direct quote..."

No you did not and whatever verses you posted do not change the meaning of a direct quote whatsoever.

"I ask again (since you did not answer the question): your criteria for determinimg what is and is not God's word is....?"

You rearranged the words of a prior post to someone else. That is how you posed this question. I take the word's of God directly, then do I attempt to understand other scipture. God came here to teach. In order to know what He taught, who He is and what He is about, I'll go to the source. Whatever anyone else has to say, I'll reference back to the source. If you learn from God, then you can understand the word of God. There is no other way.

Matthew 13:34
Jesus spoke all these things to the crowd in parables; he did not say anything to them without using a parable.

Matt 13:10-17
The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"

He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[Isaiah 6:9,10]

But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

Perhaps you think only God speaks in parables and that Moses and Paul spoke differently. They did not. Matt 19:7-9
"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Had God not said this, adulters would be writing off their spouses according to the hardness in their hearts and justifying it by God and Moses. The same goes for the actions justified by what Paul, or some other prophet said. This is another passage that expands on the fundamental passage regarding damnation, which no one has posted.

321 posted on 05/02/2006 5:47:07 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: KoRn

The homosexual activists and their assistants have MADE it our business. If they kept their private sex lives to themselves, no one would know or care.

If you don't see this, you either just woke up from a 25 year coma or you don't mind the gay agenda.


322 posted on 05/02/2006 5:48:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: sinkspur; Conservative Coulter Fan
You believe in a very angry God who seems to be just waiting for his creation to trip up so He can throw them in to hell. Is that how you believe God occupies His time?

I think that is called creating God in their own image(g). Some people really, really, really want God to be mean and punitive I think.

323 posted on 05/02/2006 5:48:10 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: DJ MacWoW

Ok, I'll give you that one. I guess I was referring to another post about judgement day, but did a poor job of telling you that. lol Ok, I forgot to say it completely.

You're right - a person true to God must show that in thought and deed. That's why I have a hard time with people trashing other people because they don't think they are Christian enough. Although I can't 'see' their thoughts, I think acting that way is a bad deed.


324 posted on 05/02/2006 5:48:24 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: papertyger
What happened to Sinkspur? I was just wondering why I never see his comments anymore in the religious forum but my post got pulled.
325 posted on 05/02/2006 5:48:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: potlatch
    ROTFL
326 posted on 05/02/2006 5:50:27 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: AnalogReigns

In theory you are correct. Except I have a feeling that you --yes even you -- are incorrigible in sin. I bet there are times at work or at home when you put the idol of money before God, and then try to justify it to yourself. I bet there are times when you put love of country before God's commandments, and then try to justify it. The worst thing is, I bet you still justify it to yourself.
We all do.


327 posted on 05/02/2006 5:50:53 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Northeastern_Realist

" One doesn't come to Jesus by quitting sin. One quits sin by coming to Jesus."

I'm standing. I'm applauding.


328 posted on 05/02/2006 5:50:58 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: Northeastern_Realist
One doesn't come to Jesus by quitting sin. One quits sin by coming to Jesus.

That's it exactly. 2 Cor. 5:17!

(That's why 1 Cor. 6:11 is there - although most stop reading with verse 9 and 10!)

329 posted on 05/02/2006 5:51:03 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: meandog

Oh man, when I saw this picture, I wondered for a moment who the handsome guy was! This story is great however, as long as you ignore the reporter!


330 posted on 05/02/2006 5:51:16 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Northeastern_Realist
Why should we be concerned about the sins of someone who isn't a follower of God?

Read that sentence again, won't you?

331 posted on 05/02/2006 5:52:30 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Annie5622

There are many fine organizations who help people leave the "gay" life. With compassion, understanding and professionalism. Do they get a platform from which to speak? Does the MSM do stories on them (other than hit pieces?) Does the homosexual rights movement allow them to have a place in the public eye? No. The homosexual activists protest when they hold meetings, up to and including violence.

There are plenty of individuals and people who want to and do help homosexuals but the homosexual activists don't want the truth to be told - that homosexuals can change.


332 posted on 05/02/2006 5:52:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

I can't imagine there'd be a big enough gay population in most second tier cities to form a parade much less spectators to line up and watch it.

The school thing is local and up to the community or majority of the community.


333 posted on 05/02/2006 5:53:31 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: sinkspur
Talk to me. Stop quoting Scripture.

Sink I can't. My ONLY authority is Scripture. I have none by myself.

334 posted on 05/02/2006 5:53:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: edcoil
You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.

Kind of reminds me of Chastity Bono. When she decided to "come out" she chose her evil-right-wing-nut father Sonny because he would be more understanding than her caring-compassionate-liberal mommy. The RATS like to paint us as unwilling to accept others, but reality seldom proves them correct, quite the opposite.
335 posted on 05/02/2006 5:56:51 PM PDT by JayNorth
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To: papertyger
Why do you so dislike Scripture quotation?

Because too many throw out Scripture quotes as if to say "See? What do you think of my knowledge of Scripture?" They use it as a substitute for rational thought.

336 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: spunkets
Help me understand your point here (I'll refrain from copying it over - refer to your post 321) You are saying that if it is not a parable, it is not God's word?

(That IS the logical conclusion to be drawn from your post...)

337 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:48 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: papertyger

You must have the ability to understand that homosexuality is no more or less than a sin than greed, etc. Yet, it seems to get alot more attention. Why?

If Cheney's daughter were an ambitious and greedy businesswoman, would we even be having this conversation? If not, why not?


338 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:58 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: originalbuckeye

Her partner was also on stage at the Victory Rally at the Ronald Reagan Building, she has also attended official dinners at the White House with Mary Cheney.


339 posted on 05/02/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: sinkspur

They use it as a substitute for rational thought.



Uh, it's based on belief. It isn't supposed to be rational.


340 posted on 05/02/2006 5:58:31 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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