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Posted on 04/29/2006 12:07:27 PM PDT by groanup

My daughter's history teacher made this claim in class last week: "I don't believe Viet Nam veterans were mistreated when they came back from the war. I don' know any who were."

Would any and all Viet Nam vets please tell us how you were treated when you came back from Nam? I'll print out this thread and give it to the teacher.


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KEYWORDS: veteranabuse; veterans; vietnamveterans
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
When I was in the Air Force, I worked with several guys who had been in action in Vietnam. I recall their stories. My supervisor who was a civilian worker at Travis AFB told me of the day when Jane Fonda and the anti war groups closed Travis . They barricaded the gates. Crews, civilian and military personnel couldn't get on or off the base. Travis was/is the base that carried medical supplies,personnel and food...the mission was delayed ,if I recall correctly, for 3 days.
Now the Fonda generation lives on ...their children and grandchildren and some pretending to be teachers of History..they make me sick.
God Bless the Viet Nam Veterans
61 posted on 04/29/2006 7:22:32 PM PDT by zoomie81 (zoomie81 ( the nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten))
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To: BeAllYouCanBe

"The Democratic Convention riots of 1968 caused Chicago PD to very gentle with the protestors."


I remember watching these gentle police after Daley decided he had enough of the protesters. LOL, hit 'em again.....


62 posted on 04/29/2006 7:23:42 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

God Bless you Tonk. You are a wonderful Patriot and I am better for knowing you here at FR.

Thanks for all you have done and all you still do.


63 posted on 04/29/2006 7:27:28 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: groanup
The storys are true. I was there and lived through them.

I still haven't forgotten/forgiven those that perpetrated those acts of cowardice, their lack of compassion, and thanks...

I never will forget my Buddies sacrifices and our treatment coming Home...

I am doing all I can to make sure our HEROS of this current war never go through that...

64 posted on 04/29/2006 7:49:57 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Cagey

My husband was spat on in the San Francisco airport when he came home from VN.


65 posted on 04/29/2006 9:23:13 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: groanup
better yet, why don't you go to the local VFW and American Legion groups and let them know what this teacher said. Maybe this can lead to a school assembly or a stint on Hannity and Colmes.
66 posted on 04/29/2006 9:36:33 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
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To: groanup
How old is this so called history teacher? She doesnt know anyone that it happened to? My question also would be does she know any vets period?? Her type usually doesnt associate. I grew up in this era and I know the stories of disrespect are true. Luckily for all concerned none of it ever happened in front of me. Just know of some incidents from talking to vet friends or wives of returning VN vets. Some of these posts make me want to cry and be teed off at the same time. Thank you veterans for doing the job that many of us cannot (and some will not) do.
67 posted on 04/29/2006 10:42:35 PM PDT by D1X1E (Call me an arrogant American. It doesnt insult me.)
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To: groanup

Also meant to commend you on your restraint. I think I would pinched this teacher's head off.


68 posted on 04/29/2006 10:45:53 PM PDT by D1X1E (Call me an arrogant American. It doesnt insult me.)
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To: D1X1E

would = would have. Dang Dix go to bed


69 posted on 04/29/2006 10:47:19 PM PDT by D1X1E (Call me an arrogant American. It doesnt insult me.)
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To: groanup
Here is a story of a vet that is being mistreated today...

High Desert Minute Men - Viet Nam Vet Loses Contrator Job - Link Here

It is in Windows Media Format. From the link, click on this picture


70 posted on 04/29/2006 10:58:51 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Jeepers, Tonk, how sad. But thank you for sharing your experiences.


71 posted on 04/29/2006 11:04:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: groanup
After coming back from Vietnam I spent some time on a University campus in southern California doing post graduate studies. I can tell you first hand, if this was not a daily occurrence it was certainly a weekly occurrence.

To make matters worse I was still in the Reserves.

72 posted on 04/29/2006 11:21:28 PM PDT by Balata
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


73 posted on 04/30/2006 3:06:25 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: groanup
I asked a buddy - a retired Swift Boat captain, what his experience was - I promised to post his reply anonymously:
"The hippie's at LAX were out in force. I went back to college and had a long hair maggot teaching architecture who constantly put down our military. We had words. I decided to go to work for IBM."
That is all. :-)
74 posted on 04/30/2006 8:39:45 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Cagey
"Most of the "war protesters" of that era wouldn't have the guts to spit on a serviceman. Servicemen were called "Baby Killers" after the Mai Lai incident, but hardly ever to their face."

While not in the armed services at that time, I WAS in high school ROTC and was the target of several epithets including "baby killer" in 1971. Ironically I had never fired a shot in anger at that time. Another story is from a guy I served with while in VA-146, he told me of pulling back into the San Francisco Bay after deployment to Viet Nam in 1970 and while passing under the Golden Gate Bridge, he and several others were manning the rail in their dress whites. The anti-war protestors managed to crowd the rails on the Golden Gate bridge with their anti-war banners and throw paint and piss balloons at the sailors, I guess they were "gutsy enough" due to the distance. There were a few dress white uniforms ruined and the flight deck needed a major scrub down. He also told me that when they had left to deploy to Viet Nam several small boats tried to block the way of the USS Enterprise (CVN-65). The Captain gave orders for "Full Speed Ahead" after warning the small boats to give way. He said it was hilarious to see the smaller vessels scatter to avoid being run over by 90,000 tons of diplomacy.

As a side note, most of the anti-war losers I went to high school with dropped from sight and as far as I know faded away.

75 posted on 04/30/2006 1:47:19 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Thermo-Nuclear Landscapers Inc. "Need a change of scenery? We deliver!")
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To: Tammy8
I also remember returning Veterans not being welcome at Veterans Organizations (to this day my husband won't join any of them for that reason)

I know exactly how he felt/feels! I have never been interested in any of these organizations even after the so-called "Welcome Home Viet Nam Vets" push awhile back. What a bunch of hypocrites.

I returned home from Viet Nam in July '69 and at Travis AFB our plane was delayed on the tarmac for approximately 2 hours while higher priority flights (with dependents) from non-combat locations taxiied in and deplaned before us. I vividly remember some yahoo walking up and down the aisle spraying bug spray over our heads.

Before we deplaned an announcement was made over the intercom that we should probably change into civvies if we were headed for SFO to make flights home. Now, I"m no rocket scientist but if someone needed to let us know civvies were preferable, that might indicate wearing our uniforms could be a problem.

I remember seeing a Green Beret get accosted in SFO on a different occasion by a bunch of anti-war types who were yelling and threatening him until he kicked 3 of their asses in about 30 seconds and the crowd kinda melted away...lol.

My personal experience as to how I was made to feel after I returned was the indifference and avoidance on the part of some family members as well as others I knew. Those I didn't know would be friendly and nice until they found out I had been in Nam and then the conversation shifted and they would find a reason to move away from me.

76 posted on 05/01/2006 4:17:03 AM PDT by borisbob69 (Old shade is better than new shade!)
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To: freema; groanup

I was mostly away from the computer this weekend. Yes, I can show it. But just do a key word search on "Walter Reed" and you'll get plenty of BillF's threads on Code Pink staining the sidewalk outside of the Army Medical Center.


77 posted on 05/01/2006 4:23:00 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Most people then thought most of us were crazy thanks to Hollywierd.

You probably know this already, but I have read that Vietnam Veterans are significantly less likely to be under psychiatric treatment, less likely to be on drugs, and less likely to have been in jail when compared to equivalent-aged men.

78 posted on 05/01/2006 4:31:58 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: Coop

Thanks, Coop.


79 posted on 05/01/2006 8:13:16 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: ko_kyi

Go visit this link.

http://www.vhcma.org/fact.html


80 posted on 05/01/2006 12:27:03 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Animal Rights Activist Advisory: No French Person Was Injured In The Writing Of This Post)
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