Posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:39 AM PDT by Bob J
In a just concluded debate and press conference, author and FBI Consultant Paul Williams and Jeff Epstein of "America's Truth Forum" reveal they have been advised by Pakistani journalist and Bin Laden biographer Hamid Amir that Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.
Amir established his credentials by correctly predicting that Egypt would be hit by terrorist action a full two weeks prior to the events of last week. Amir, a Pakistani journalist, has been in contact with high ranking Al-Qaeda officials for several years.
The debate (between Richard Miniter and Paul Williams) and press conference were webcast LIVE by Rightalk.com. Audio files of both events will be available for downloading by this afternoon.
You said -- "I don't care about the Jesus stuff."
Well.., that's a factor in what is happening in the world, today. Either the Islamics are correct -- or they're not. Either the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is correct -- or He's not.
They both cannot be correct because they are opposed to each other. One favors Israel and the Jews -- while the other hates them and wants to kill them all.
It's the classic battle of the Old Testament that we see played out over and over again. Islam is based on a false and evil god (aka Satan) while the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the true God.
It's either that -- or else you accept the liberal position that everything is "okay" and each can have their own religion and none are incorrect. They all are correct. And Islam is correct, too.
Islam loves that kind of thinking -- because they know how to destroy those people in quick order. What they cannot destroy is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And neither can they destroy Israel, and that's why they are so *fuming mad*.
It's *integral* to understanding what is going on.
Regards,
Star Traveler
For the record, I corrected Mr. Williams via FReeper StillProud2BeFree prior to the article for this thread coming out.
His claims of Al-Qaeda's nukes are not based upon scholarly reporting, modern science (read: the laws of physics), or facts on the ground.
He is going to embarass himself and many followers needlessly.
You said -- "There are millions of silent peaceful muslims. Yeah..we would all wish they would be more vocal in their condemnation of the radical element but they are fearful. As they should."
For one thing, Islam is not a hi-jacked religion. There is only Islam or "not-Islam". There is no moderate Muslim. Ask any former Muslim. They will all tell you that.
And for another thing, I never said to indiscriminately bomb the people or the cities. I said to destroy all the holy places and the shrines and the objects of their religion, along with the clerics and anyone else (i.e., "terrorists") who teach and perpetrate terror.
This is what we should do to totally and completely eliminate Islam from this world.
Regards,
Star Traveler
That wouldn't make it go away any more that destroying every Scientology church would make Tom Cruise go away.
If al-Qaeda had nuclear weapons here in the United States they would have used them already.
You said -- "That wouldn't make it go away any more that destroying every Scientology church would make Tom Cruise go away."
Well, to use your "picture" -- I wouldn't be concerned about Tom Cruise. It would be the religion that is the problem. Tom Cruise will simply go on making movies.
Let's take the state-religion of Nazism in Germany. We destroyed that. We also destroyed a few key people in that 1,000 year Reich. And we made it illegal. It's gone now.
BUT -- there are still many people alive today who were part of that back then.
So, you see..., you don't have to destroy all the people. You just need to destroy the religion.
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said -- "If al-Qaeda had nuclear weapons here in the United States they would have used them already."
Have you read how many people have already said that?
They might not be ready to use them yet. Perhaps they are putting the finishing work on it right now. Perhaps they are waiting for some particular timing, just like they did with 9/11.
And perhaps they are not here yet -- but are getting things together and will be here soon.
So, what you say doesn't work or fit.
Regards,
Star Traveler
Target list: Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Damascus, 72 hours to evacuate the other major cities of Americans then they go. Leave Iraq as the base of operations. But you are right not under W. It will have to be some other Prez to git it done. Geez I wish Ronnie was still around.
Taking down a government is completely different then taking down a religion with 1.6 billion followers spread through the entire planet.
I dont think that is a valid comparison.
The Tom Cruise thing was just sarcasm.
"If a nuke makes it into the US via loose border control, the GOP is done politically."
Ummm....I think the GOP is already toast based on high fuel prices and loose borders. As conservative as I am, I suspect a RAT sweep in the next election just on those two issues alone. The spineless will be dealt with.
It's pretty clever, isn't it? Wish I could claim the credit but I stole it from somebody. Feel free to use it as you like.
"The only way to deal with genocidal maniacs is to exterminate their entire culture" is right up there with "Intolerance will be dealt with harshly" on the hypocrites scale.
You said -- "Target list: Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Damascus, 72 hours to evacuate the other major cities of Americans then they go. Leave Iraq as the base of operations. But you are right not under W. It will have to be some other Prez to git it done. Geez I wish Ronnie was still around."
Well, even though I think the religion of Islam has to be totally eliminated and all the religious sites and shrines destroyed -- I couldn't support any indiscriminate nuking or bombing of entire cities. There are too many there that would have nothing to do with it. It just wouldn't be right. It would turn the whole world against us as acting unrighteously. We can't do that.
Eliminating Islam, whose teachings we can *demonstrate* directly promote terrorism and no freedom of religion -- is something that is supportable, I think.
That's the difference with me.
Regards,
Star Traveler
"elchrio" has left the building...
You said -- "Taking down a government is completely different then taking down a religion with 1.6 billion followers spread through the entire planet."
Oh..., I don't think so. It's just that you're too afraid of that religion. It's false, it's evil, it has no basis to stand. Don't be afraid of it and destroying it...
Regards,
Star Traveler
He knew his business when talking about nuclear triggers.
I have no fear of Islam. Dont kid yourself there. What I know is that there are priorities in conflict here. Destroying their holy sights and mosques will do nothing but take individuals that want nothing to do with this conflict and enrage them.
Huh? Did you read what I wrote? I was simply making a case that if Al Qaida had nukes in the country, they would take a huge risk by sitting on them because they could be discovered.
My point about the border crossing (and the subway) was that detectors can find miniscule amounts of radiation. Even if they were smuggled in before 9/11, the fact we're looking for them now and the way we're rolling up terror networks make such inaction risky too.
I'd rather you address what I wrote rather than insulting me.
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