Posted on 04/26/2006 5:48:20 AM PDT by SJackson
From your lips to God's ears...
Somehow, only part of my post printed: I meant to say "and we found 140 jet planes buried in the desert, from the Gulf War, that we had never seen, so think how easy it would be to bury some cannisters of bio weapons or some drums of chemical weapons. The Iraq Survey Group only looked at 5% (!!!) of the potential sites before concluding no WMDs were there.
"You refer to non-existent stockpiles of chemical weapons. Of course the peaceful people of Iraq are not interested in weapons of massive destruction. That is a lie from the infidel President of America Boosh and his lapdog Dan Burton. Just ask your trustworthy patriot Mr. Howard Dean of the Revolutionary Democrat Liberation Party."
That would be funny if it weren't so true!!
WMD's weren't the only reason we needed to neutralize Saddam Hussein.
That mathematical equation meant that some WMD were left over, no matter what these guys wrote in their report. It makes more sense to me to believe that the leftover WMD were flown or trucked out of the country, rather than everyone in Iraq from bottom to top was able to coordinate somehow to tell the exact same lies about nonexistent WMD.
Lefties want to discredit the war because there wasn't unbreakable evidence of WMD. A reasonable doubt, they say, should have meant we wouldn't invade. But that equation just won't go away, and with a reasonable suspicion that the madman possessed WMD, we had to take action to disarm him. There's no need to build elaborate theories like this one when we have solid international intelligence telling us that the WMD were there. So as others have said, this story sounds fishy to me too.
And some of these weapons sites are thousands of acres in size.
How long do you think it will take to completely inventory them, especially in light of the fact that fighting is still going on?
I say our knowledge is incomplete, and will remain so for at least another decade.
He only appears to be a political genius when compared to the buffoons in the Dim party...
Considering who our CinC was at the time, his perceptions may not have been so very far off.
You are EXACTLY correct.
We know he HAD them, We KNOW he USED them. It is IRRELEVANT at this stage of the game to hypothesize what happened to them. But if we must I find the simple explanation to always be closest to the TRUTH.
So we have two possibilities.........He destroyed them and lied about it to his Generals or he HID them and lied about it to the WORLD.
Which scenario is MOST likely?
About Those Iraqi WMDs
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Because that keep trying to go along to get along... The ironic thing about Bush is as much as Bush get attacked as a monster he's really way to nice.... he got "nice guy" syndrome ...
Good article, thanks for the ping.
When a person serves at the pleasure of a man like Saddam Hussein with the Idi Amin syndrome, they're going to tell him what he wants to hear knowing full well if they don't, they won't be around the next day.
While I think that is true to a point, they would also have to be careful to not tell him anything they couldn't back-up. Sort of a catch-22, tell him what he wants to hear, but it also has to be provable (to a point).
And what of General Georges Sada saying WMD were spirited out of Iraq and into Syria? I read his book. He seemed credible. Like you, I don't buy this interpretation which says Saddam deluded himself, but then at the last minute somehow snapped out of his delusions to announce to the UN there were no WMD. That just doesn't hold water.
To often in the media and on talk show hosts (And even the President) giving validity to the mythology that the war with Iraq was resumed based on Hussein’s possession of weapons of mass destruction. Actually the ceasefire ended and war resumed, because Hussein behaved in material breach of his international obligations as reaffirmed in resolution 1441. Nowhere in the Congressional resolutions of 1991, 1998 and 2002, or in U.N. resolutions 660, 678, 687 and 1441 will you see possession of stockpiles of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons stated as a reason for confronting him with military action. Behavior in terms of threats, evasion, intimidation, and past use, not possession, was always the key. Once again Hussein failed to give accurate, full, final and complete disclosure to prove the regime had eliminated both programs for, and any remaining inventories of weapons of mass destruction.
None of these resolutions were put together like some middle schooler’s term paper. Each phrase was laboriously parsed, and there could not have been a clearer choice to focus on verbs instead of nouns. In defining the U.N.’s final response, resolutions 687 and 1441 contained as strong, or stronger, language as was used in the resolution requiring the withdrawal of North Korea in 1950 and authorizing U. N. forces to moving into the adjoining country. Everyone on the Security Council and in Congress understood that a further material breach required ending the ceasefire and resuming the war authorized by resolution 678.
This struggle is against adherents to a radical religion bearing little likeness to the Muslim faith. Within this generation those trained in Wahhabi/ Salafi jihadism will earn graduate degrees in chemistry, political science, mechanical engineering, biology, economics and physics. They can then plan and execute repeated cataclysmic attacks against this and other nations that have historically consumed at least 1% of a population. A dictator such as Hussein who headed a totalitarian state of vast wealth with 23 million people always posed a greater terrorist threat, than a bin Laden or Zarqawa, who are pariahs for most countries of the world.
This is no ordinary time and the war must be carried on with the same dedication at home as on the front lines in Iraq. The words countering lies about lies about weapons of mass destruction must also provide the truth that resuming the war in Iraq forced the U. N. into a moment of historical relevance concerning it’s obligations under Article I of its charter enjoining the institution to maintain international peace and security through collective measures to remove threats and suppress aggression.
First of all, I have yet to get a logical answer as to what that miles-long caravan of 18-wheelers trucking to Syria contained. It was picked up on satellite a few months before we invaded Iraq. And yes, Saddam had all the time in the world to get rid of the evidence.
And even IF Saddam no longer had the WMDs in his possession, he could always get WMDs again since he was working hand-in-hand under the table with the UN, France, Russia and who knows what other countries. Ergo, the need for taking Saddam out of the equation via regime change.
So... I totally agree with you.
"That mathematical equation meant that some WMD were left over, no matter what these guys wrote in their report. It makes more sense to me to believe that the leftover WMD were flown or trucked out of the country, rather than everyone in Iraq from bottom to top was able to coordinate somehow to tell the exact same lies about nonexistent WMD.
Lefties want to discredit the war because there wasn't unbreakable evidence of WMD. A reasonable doubt, they say, should have meant we wouldn't invade. But that equation just won't go away, and with a reasonable suspicion that the madman possessed WMD, we had to take action to disarm him. There's no need to build elaborate theories like this one when we have solid international intelligence telling us that the WMD were there. So as others have said, this story sounds fishy to me too."
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