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'Tangible proof' al-Qaida deploying nukes (Bombshell presentation)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/25/06 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 04/25/2006 6:50:43 AM PDT by demkicker

A terrorism symposium featuring leading experts will begin with presentation of "tangible proof" al-Qaida not only has developed an arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons but also has begun to deploy them for use in its jihad against the United States and Israel.

Paul L. Williams, author of "The Al Connection" and "The Dunces of Doomsday," will present his findings at the National Press Club in Washington at the conclusion of a public debate with Wall Street Journal correspondent Richard Miniter on al-Qaida's nuclear weaponry.

The debate, Friday at 10 a.m., will be moderated by Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard and regular contributor to the Fox News Channel. The public is invited to attend.

The organizers say the event is timely, "with increased anxiety over demands for a pullout from Iraq, the nuclear developments in Iran and North Korea, the failure of our government to secure the borders and our country's fledgling, incomprehensive effort at homeland security."

Epstein believes the majority of Americans disapprove of both the "cut-and-run policy" proposed by many leading Democrats and the "compassionate conservative" approach of the Bush administration, favoring instead a "firm and decisive military action with no apologies to Russia, China, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia or the United Nations."

"I am convinced that the threat we are currently facing from radical Islam greatly surpasses that which was posed by the Third Reich," Epstein said.

Anyone interested in attending, Epstein added, should contact America's Truth Forum at its website or by calling 866-709-3474.

The event offers the following speakers (continued):

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To: LurkingSince'98
I am not speaking for him they do not have to maintain them for years and years only a year or so with final assembly on -site.

Maintaining any nuclear weapon components for "a year or so" requires considerable infrastructure. Assembling a nuclear weapon onsite requires a fair amount of specialized equipment.

Have you not read the unclassified threat assessments, even those here on freerepublic?

Well, I've read threat assessments from people who actually have an idea of how these things work. Unfortunately, those folks don't post on Free Republic.

161 posted on 04/25/2006 2:43:07 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I don't agree with the "If they had them, they would have used them logic". Get into Ben Laden's mindset. He doesn't want a retaliatory nuclear strike against all of the Middle East. So 9-11 was a test of our response time, our resolve, and our military response. All three have been pitiful.

If nukes were to go off in several major cities, things would completely fall apart at the top levels. It would take days to figure out who fired them, we would be so destroyed that the military would not know what to do. General's and politicians would be running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

This would tempt either N. Korea, Russia, and China
or all three to finish the job, before we ever got our feet under us. Look how long it took to scramble jets on 9-11. Look how long it took us to go into Afghanistan after 9-11.

Reading the fall of Babylon in scriptures would be a good read regarding our reaction, and our reaction time. When dealing with a nuclear attack seconds and minutes count, not days.

Homeland Security has been a joke, Bush, the congress, and the senate should face charges of criminal neglect over our borders, the Homeland Security Plan, it's inadequacies, it's implementation, and enforcement.
162 posted on 04/25/2006 2:51:45 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Calpernia

Hope CSPAN is covering this...


163 posted on 04/25/2006 2:55:21 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: potlatch

Hey, Potlatch... hope everything is well with you.


164 posted on 04/25/2006 3:01:46 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: demkicker

Tangible proof being tauted by WorldNUTDaily?

I think I'll stay away from it LOL


165 posted on 04/25/2006 3:02:21 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: BadAndy

However, I can't believe they would hit us before they hit Israel...I suspect they won't do anything to hinder their chance to get the Jews...

Of course, that could be tomorrow...


166 posted on 04/25/2006 3:10:59 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Shaun_MD
"If Bin Laden pulled off something like multiple nuclear bombs going off it would be the end of the USA as we know it. In that case I would hope that enough of the country remains intact long enough to completely and totally eradicate our enemies off the face of the earth."

The effects of half a dozen suitcase nukes going off would be far from the end of the United States. Suitcase nukes are small, and detonated at ground level wouldn't do much more than destroy the downtown of a large city. The problem is that a surface detonated nuclear weapon leaves more radioactive material than a weapon detonated in the air.

It would be a tragedy of epic proportions, but Germany and Russia sustained a much larger percent of their population killed during ww2, than 6 suitcase bombs in America.
167 posted on 04/25/2006 3:32:02 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: MikefromOhio
Tangible proof being tauted by WorldNUTDaily?

Think of the Spaniard from The Princess Bride.

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

168 posted on 04/25/2006 3:34:45 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

yeah but knowing that we know what they know that we know....

LOL


169 posted on 04/25/2006 3:39:38 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: demkicker
"I would love to go to this. Hopefully some of our DC FReepers will attend and give us a report."

Yup. I have no plans to go anywhere near DC for the rest of my life. That also includes, New York, Chicago, LA...

170 posted on 04/25/2006 3:51:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. This should be an interesting symposium.


171 posted on 04/25/2006 4:00:21 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Oh, you mean Al-Qaeda has the infrastructure in place to maintain nuclear weapons in operational condition for years and years?"

What would that entail for a 2-year period? Is a nuclear weapon only good for a very short time? How long?

The USSR is unable to account for hundreds of "satchel" nukes. Are they impotent?


172 posted on 04/25/2006 4:23:15 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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To: LurkingSince'98
A nuke homemade (by a nation-state) with 100% plutonium can be fit in an attache case.

WRONG!!!

173 posted on 04/25/2006 4:29:33 PM PDT by wireman
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To: lawdude
What would that entail for a 2-year period? Is a nuclear weapon only good for a very short time? How long?

If it uses a deuterium-tritium "zipper" for a neutron source, it's good for about three months. If it uses a polonium neutron source, it's only good for 14 days.

(Note: tritium costs about $50,000 a gram. Polonium is likewise extremely expensive.)

If it uses tritium boosting, the tritium has to be changed out every few months, or it will decay to helium, which will absorb a great deal of neutrons. (Some of our 1950s nuclear weapons tests "fizzled," i.e., did not generate a nuclear yield, because of helium contamination.)

Going on, firing set batteries and capacitors need to be changed out every six months or so; the explosives need to be inspected and replaced every six to nine months (they are wrapped around a lump of plutonium that generates constant heat; eventually, volatile compounds will evaporate out of the explosives, causing either the explosives to not detonate properly or to lose their shape around the pit; either condition means that the spherical implosion wave (necessary to bring the plutonium to supercriticality) will not be formed properly.

Wiring and detonators need to be checked annually for signs of wear or corrosion and replaced as necessary.

Finally, the plutonium itself needs to go back to a nuclear weapons fabrication facility every ten years due to americium buildup from decaying plutonium.

The USSR is unable to account for hundreds of "satchel" nukes. Are they impotent?

Unless they've been remanufactured from the core out, yes. See above.

174 posted on 04/25/2006 4:51:51 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: offduty

We are not obligated to face DC everyday & pray to the Washington Monument, so I think your analogy may not follow. I was trying to apply a little Sun Tzu to the situation (seizing something dear to your enemy...and all that stuff). You may very well be right, I was just throwing the my idea out for comment.


175 posted on 04/25/2006 5:37:17 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: lawdude
The USSR is unable to account for hundreds of "satchel" nukes. Are they impotent?

Food for thought: The Soviets may not have had as many "Suitcase Nukes" as THEY thought. In arms control negotiations the US, through its 'National Technical Means', had a better idea of the numbers of certain types of weapons the Soviets had deployed than the Soviet Military did. It seems that factory managers & technicians regularly sandbagged their superiors in order to make it look like they made their production quotas, or their units were at a higher state of readiness than actually was the case.

Since suitcase nukes are by definition too small to be seen from a spy satellite, it is possible the Soviets thought they had a lot more of them than they actually did. When the clerks attempted to reconcile what they had on the shelves at the end of the Cold War there was a lot of discrepencies.

176 posted on 04/25/2006 5:47:20 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: MissAmericanPie

"Homeland Security has been a joke, Bush, the congress, and the senate should face charges of criminal neglect over our borders, the Homeland Security Plan, it's inadequacies, it's implementation, and enforcement."

Lady, you need to chill out. You'll have a stroke thinking like that.

To the rest of you nuclear doomsdayers, please don't get carried away with your worst-case scenarios. Sure, anything is possible and it never hurts to look at the worst case analysis. But, if you are really worried about the cave dwellers maintaining a nuclear weapons program then you are not enjoying life as you should. Some of the things said on this thread are so far-out and ridiculous that it's embarrasing. China and Russia don't want to invade the USA, they can't even handle their own countries, You think they have a chance in hell of imposing their will on the American people? 3 or 4 nukes detonated at the same time in cities across the USA would not destroy our country. Sure, it would end the world as we know it, but unless the attackers have a few million troops on our soil, they have no chance of capitalizing on their attack. We would regain our footing just like NYC did post 9-11.

My take on this is that the threat of a nuclear strike is actually better than the strike itself for the terrorists. People worry, cast blame at our President, fan the flames of fear and generally make the terrorists out to be really important dudes. Hope you enjoy playing into their hand.


177 posted on 04/25/2006 6:28:59 PM PDT by stevestras
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Unless they've been remanufactured from the core out, yes. See above.
"

Well my BS-Physics is 38 years old and I have forgotten most of my nuclear physics 'stuff' I bow to your current knowledge.

Thanks


178 posted on 04/25/2006 6:34:59 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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To: devolve

Bumpity bump!


179 posted on 04/25/2006 6:43:12 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: blam
Me: "I would love to go to this. Hopefully some of our DC FReepers will attend and give us a report."

Well, blam, since you're from Alabama, I wasn't referring to you.

180 posted on 04/25/2006 6:44:19 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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