Posted on 04/24/2006 1:36:56 PM PDT by Dr. Marten
By Tabassum Zakaria
IRVINE, California (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday he doubted a "massive deportation" of foreigners living illegally in the United States would solve the country's immigration woes, as he tried to revive prospects for an election-year agreement in the divided U.S. Congress.
Senators returned to Washington on Monday from a two-week recess after Democrats and Republicans were unable to reach a compromise on what to do about an estimated 11.5 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.com ...
Well, he is familiar with it. $100 billion here, $100 billion there, and none of it normal operating expenses. Don't know if the ship is sinking, but it is listing to port.
You need to keep up...this has already been hashed over.
Move along here....
DEPORT THEM ALL. SHOW THEM WHO IS THE NUMBER ONE NATION IN THE WORLD, OR DIE DUE THE PARASITES.
"The only valid argument in favor of stricter immigration laws are the ones relating to terrorists. But they fall flat too. In fact, terrorists can come here legally and easily from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, ad nauseum, on airliners through airports etc."
Ah, I get it...you recognize the problem, but because it's a big problem, we should do nothing about it. Ok, thanks, got it, right.
And what makes you think that Mexico has veto power over U.S. sovereignty? Other than GWB, that is.
Mexico is a wealthy, corrupt, third-world disaster, that has kept its own people destitute. Their "internal turmoil" should be their problem; not illegally imported to US.
Well, who doesn't?
but every way I come at this issue leads to either this or open borders.
Yup. A fine mess we've gotten ourselves into, Ollie!
Make it a felony to be in-country illegally, put the owners of the companies using illegals in jail, cut off the free healthcare and welfare, get rid of the anchor baby b.s. and the criminal illegal alien invaders will be driving those shiny new pickups and Blazers right back across the border just as fast as they can get through the lines at the bridges.
I see nothing wrong with these suggestions and in fact, this would only require thte strict enforcement of current law and the correct interpretation of the constitution to resolve the issues of the anchor babies. Perhaps I would be a bit more sympathetic to their issues if I was not being told by the little b******s to get off the continent.
That ain't gonna happen, my family came here before there was a united States of America, and we ain't about to leave now that a bunch of illegals fell for some commie propaganda.
Of course you can post any opinion you like here (within reason) as long as you follow `ol JimRob's rules. We were all new here once...
I found the following in my in-box the other day from a long time activist (as in reliable GOTV worker) in response to an e-mail about setting up a Republican HQ for the upcoming election cycle in a heavily Republican area. Check it out:
Dear Sirs: Please remove my name from your mailing list. ... it's become evident that El Presidente Bush has dismissed his, and our, values and has sold out the American people to whoever is there. ... I am fed up and am going to remove my name from the lists of the Republican Party. I never thought I would see the day when elected members of Congress would sell out, and abandon, the American people in favor of foreign interests. That sad day is now here, they are all, in my opinion, cowards, opportunists, and worse, and should be thrown out of office. Until that day arrives, I QUIT!
The Chamber of Commerce set is going to burn the Republican party to the ground over this issue, big time.
No one(sane) is even advocating mass deportations!!!
Tighten the borders and tighten the screws on employers that hire ILLEGAL immigrants and these ILLEGALS will find their way home
YEP, it is working so well now. I mean these already here "temporary workers" are waiting in line like they are "suppose to", leaving like they are "suppose to", doing all those little things "required" of them. These people of integrity are exactly what we need. And... send the bill to Mr. & Mrs. American Citizen... courtesy of President Right Again Bush. Plus, we know who is coming across the border... little lettuce pickers. Nobody who would dream of harming Americans.
Nothing illegal crossing our borders.
see 149...that is where I stand at this point.
Mass deportations make some fanatics smile but make no sense otherwise.
Feel free to post your opinion. Just realize that you are opening yourself up to scrutiny by doing so. Be ready to argue your point with facts, links etc...
As for the Ad Hominem attacks and troll posts, disregard them. It will help you lead a happier life.
Well for one, we are not sending them to death camps. I am sure there are others but that little tiny difference kind of sticks out to me....
This is half right, half wrong. Most around here do not want to lock up the illegals. They want them sent home and would be happy to allow them to apply for citizenship legally.
At the same time, they want border enforcement that will actually work. Walls are the start. Actually enforcing the laws that are on the books is another step.
I have a question for you. What do think should be done? You call yourself a moderate and claim these positions will not work.
If you had your way, what would YOU do?
Of course, the first step is to secure the borders. Next, make the illegal aliens want to leave. For instance, ICE doesn't need to go looking for illegal aliens. Simply go to where they congregate. If an illegal alien goes to a hospital, they're treated for something life threatening, then handed over to the authorities and deported. If an illegal alien shows up for school, they're handed over to the authroities and deported. Make it so difficult, and expensive for employers who hire illegal aliens, that the job market dries up for illegal aliens. 1st offense, fine them enough so it hurts. 2nd offense, fine them so hard that they might just lose their business. Third offense, jail, and they DO lost their business. Cut off all social services to illegal aliens. And for minor children of illegal aliens who are American Citizens, well, they can come back when they're 18, without their illegal alien parents. Finally, once the borders are secure and the majority of illegal aliens have left, THEN we can start to talk about a "guest worker" program.
For the most part, model the rules on what Mexico does to their illegal aliens. And when he squeals like a stuck pig, ask ol "Vinnie the Fox" why those rules are good enough for his country, but not for ours?
Mark
Inducted? As in drafted? No way! Do you want to give those protesters guns? However, should any volunteer, that should be considered, and I'm a very strong believer that anyone who volunteers to serve this country should be given special treatment if they want to become citizens. I think that it's a shame that there are many non-citizens who are serving in the military, and once they get out, find themselves being leap-frogged by the illegal aliens who'll be getting amnesty.
Mark
This will no doubt be highly offensive to Jewish people.
The posting to which this reply refers has been removed for a while. However, there are some posts, no matter how offensive, that I feel should be left on the boards so that they can become objects of desision, as can those who post that sort of nonsense.
I've seens some of the replies, but not the original post, although I've gotten the gist of what Dane posted. The more he posts, the more people realize what an idiot and moral relativist he is.
Mark
You lose!
"The first one who makes a comparison to the Nazis loses"
It's a universal rule.
Mark
You are so right. If IFCO had to pay a fine of $1,000,000 for every illegal that ICE rounded up last Wed., they'd be out of business. Now THAT would have been a much more effective symbolic gesture than rounding up 1,200 illegals and deporting only a palty 250 and letting the rest go. After all, the government seizes ALL property of drug dealers who are violating our laws. Why should employers of illegals be given special license to ignore US law?
Once Mexico refuses to admit the forcely-repatriated millions, there will be mass issuing of work permits to these illegal aliens, turning then into de facto legal immigrants.
Do you really think that Mexico will allow such internal turmoil caused by massive deportations?
Maybe the US should print up comic books in spanish to help them get back into their own country. And maybe the US government and military should actively help smuggle them across the border. If it was good enough for Mexico, it should be good enough for us!
Mark
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