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'Westerners are too self-absorbed'[Dalai Lama on Homosexuality, etc.]
Telegraph ^ | 4/1/2006 | Alice Thompson

Posted on 04/21/2006 2:11:41 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam

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Although he is known for his tolerant, humane views, he is a surprisingly harsh critic of homosexuality. If you are a Buddhist, he says, it is wrong. "Full stop.

No way round it.

"A gay couple came to see me, seeking my support and blessing. I had to explain our teachings. Another lady introduced another woman as her wife - astonishing. It is the same with a husband and wife using certain sexual practices. Using the other two holes is wrong."

At this point, he looks across at his interpreter - who seems mainly redundant - to check that he has been using the right English words to discuss this delicate matter. The interpreter gives a barely perceptible nod.

"A Western friend asked me what harm could there be between consenting adults having oral sex, if they enjoyed it," the Dalai Lama continues, warming to his theme. "But the purpose of sex is reproduction, according to Buddhism. The other holes don't create life. I don't mind - but I can't condone this way of life."

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: buddhism; dalailama; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; sin; thewest
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To: monkapotamus

ROTFL!


41 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:59 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: ravingnutter
But...but...but...a blow job is not sex...Bill Clinton told us so, ROTFLMAO!

Depends on what the meaning of IS, is.

42 posted on 04/21/2006 7:55:43 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: siunevada

The old testament is full of stories of how people lived in sin (id). The old testament shows the steps that were taken to inject moral living (ego) up to adapting a superego.


43 posted on 04/21/2006 7:56:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: siunevada
So it all started when Cain and Abel made their offerings to the LORD? Genesis 4:3

Make you wonder why the angels in Genesis took some of the females, doesnt it? I mean..if you don't have Mr. Johnson down there, why take them? Or maybe they traded them like baseball cards? (the pretty ones I mean)

44 posted on 04/21/2006 7:57:44 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: dfwgator

Most western "Buddhists" know diddly about the religion.


45 posted on 04/21/2006 7:58:20 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

His English may not be the best, but he is theologically and physiologically correct.

If the parts don't match, you must unlatch.


46 posted on 04/21/2006 8:05:01 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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To: Calpernia
The old testament shows the steps that were taken to inject moral living (ego) up to adapting a superego.

Really? I thought the old Doctor's structural theory went something like this:

The id contains "primitive desires" (hunger, rage, and sex), the super-ego contains internalized norms, morality and taboos, and the ego mediates between the two and may include or give rise to the sense of self.

47 posted on 04/21/2006 8:05:07 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Calpernia; siunevada

Come on, nevada sue - Calpernia's holding up her end!

If I were you, I'd go after the apparent implicit acceptance of the Freudian personality structure in Cal's thesis.

As an opening foray, so to speak.

;^)


48 posted on 04/21/2006 8:05:20 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: siunevada

Yes.


49 posted on 04/21/2006 8:05:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Okay, but seriously, earlier one said he was a liberal icon and friend of Gere; I suppose that is so, I read his autobiography; I don't know about all Buddhists but I thought he was too "NonGod believing" for me (and everyone loves him,--- okay not everyone); I don't know if this pertains to all of those branches of Buddhism. I've read some; seems there are branches and some might imho.

50 posted on 04/21/2006 8:06:03 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: Unam Sanctam

I'd urge all to check out the link, all the talk on China and the Chinese are some of the people who really love the Dalai Lama (I mean the ones who are not the government;), if you are at a Chinese Buddhist Temple and have some post cards of the Dalai Lama and there is a lot of other info around, the Chinese will go for those postcards.

Everyone talked of this article, self absorbed and homosexual/gay themes; but I read this:

"Tsering Wangmo is shaking uncontrollably as tears pour down her cheeks. Still sobbing, she pulls up her top and slowly turns around to show me a fretwork of scars. They criss-cross her body from shoulders to waist.

"My crime," she explains when she is calmer, "was to be found by the police with a picture of the Dalai Lama. I was dragged through the streets of Lhasa by my hair, beaten with electric prongs, then thrown into jail for three years."




Self-absorbed westerners? Yes, this is kind of the matter with "The greatest generation" type of deal from World War II; those people, well, they had things in a proper prospective and were not self-absorbed.

The article you linked continues:

"Her waterlogged, open-air prison in Tibet was shared with around 1,000 other women. "We were tortured, raped, hung upside down for hours," she says. "Many died." On her release, she discovered that her husband had been forced to marry a Chinese woman, so she took her children and fled barefoot across the Himalayas to find solace with the Dalai Lama. "




This article is about everything; and though, I joined in the fun to; with the pic I posted earlier; this is serious.

Lately, he didn't attend a Buddhist convention in China; I think it was just up for show. What a pity, that Tibet truly, hardly exists.

But they do have a soccer team; http://www.kaospilot.dk/docs/tibet.asp


51 posted on 04/21/2006 8:21:17 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: roadrunner96
>>>>I'd urge all to check out the link, all the talk on China and the Chinese are some of the people who really love the Dalai Lama (I mean the ones who are not the government;), if you are at a Chinese Buddhist Temple and have some post cards of the Dalai Lama and there is a lot of other info around, the Chinese will go for those postcards.

From China Embassy

Tang Jiaxuan : be high alert against Falun Gong & Dalai Lama

From this this thread

China harvesting inmates' organs, journalist says

Excerpt:

A Chinese official was the first person to reveal that secret medical work was being done at the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, in Sujiatun, a suburb of Shenyang, the major city in northeastern China, he said.

Mr. Jin then said he found out that a large underground prison was built beneath the hospital and that members of the outlawed Falun Gong religious group were being held there. As many as 6,000 people are thought to be held prisoner at the underground facility, he said.

The hospital is harvesting the organs of the prisoners, including kidneys, livers, and eye parts, he said. The organs are then sold to people, from both China and abroad, who need medical organ transplants.

2 posted on 03/24/2006 12:28:11 PM EST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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52 posted on 04/21/2006 8:31:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I also object to the use of the political term "gay" and prefer instead the more clinical and neutral term "homosexual".

-and when it comes down to it, a "homosexual" is really just one flavor of disordered heterosexual...

53 posted on 04/21/2006 8:33:54 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Williams
We have a totally selfish and shallow society (generalizing here of course) that is constantly shocked to learn that the leaders of the World's religions do not just come out and say "if it feels good, do it."

Nailed it.
54 posted on 04/21/2006 8:36:21 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their children is siblings. Lots of 'em.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I put credence in the theory that if you can preoccupy a civilization in sexual pursuits (beyond the norm, especially), it will be much easier to destroy.

The communists certainly think so.
55 posted on 04/21/2006 8:37:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their children is siblings. Lots of 'em.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Tried?

...never mind...LOL.


56 posted on 04/21/2006 8:37:55 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: DBeers

Check this out.


57 posted on 04/21/2006 8:39:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: All

The MSM is going to be torn on this one.

There report the Dahli Lama as superior to christianity but this is going to hurt their self absorbed moral realativist egos.


58 posted on 04/21/2006 8:40:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you for the article.


59 posted on 04/21/2006 8:42:06 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: roadrunner96

bump!


60 posted on 04/21/2006 8:45:55 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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