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Mountain View woman (lesbian) appointed to Santa Clara County Superior judgeship
Mercury News ^ | 4/21/06 | Bay City News Service

Posted on 04/21/2006 8:06:46 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced Thursday the appointment of a Mountain View woman to a judgeship with the Santa Clara County Superior Court.

Shawna M. Schwarz, 42, will fill the seat of retired Judge William F. Martin.

Schwarz has served as a commissioner to the Santa Clara Superior Court since 2001. She was previously the directing attorney for Legal Advocates for Children and Youth with the Law Foundation of Silicon Valley from 1995 to 2001.

Schwarz, a Democrat, earned a law degree from Santa Clara University, a Masters degree in Sociology from Stanford and a Bachelor of Arts degree from Stanford University.

The compensation for this position is $149,160.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calappointment; caljudges; homosexual; homosexualagenda; schwarzenegger; shawnaschwarz; whydidivotearnold
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To: fr_freak
to YOU that is normal! So live your life the way YOU see fit instead of pontificating about the lives of others. Sweep your own doorstep before concerning yourself with the lives of others.

This guy leads a good, responsible life which is a darn site more than I can say for a slew of Conservatives that I could name and a bunch of folks on this board.

101 posted on 04/21/2006 11:23:45 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: ElkGroveDan

so let's put ALL judges through your very own, sanctioned, psychoanalytical tests before they can be judges. brilliant!

sheesh.


102 posted on 04/21/2006 11:25:36 AM PDT by rudabaga
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To: Antoninus

well what mental tests do you propose for all judges then? because i guess anyone on prozac is out, or fear of flying, or who does anything you don't like. maybe being a lawyer makes me a little less hysterical than you, there are good judges and bad judges and frankly, their sexual orientation plays little role in how most rule from the bench.


103 posted on 04/21/2006 11:32:42 AM PDT by rudabaga
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To: ElkGroveDan
I don't think it's unreasonable for us to want normal, stable people as judges.

I assume it's your definition of "normal" that must be used?

If I had a case before a judge - I don't think what the judge does in bed would have much bearing on my case.

Do you ask your judge if they indulge in oral sex before you'll let them hear your case? To many - that would be considered a "disorder". To some, anything other than the missionary position for reasons of procreation is "not right". Do we determine our judges on that criteria?

If not, why not?

I've never understood why some folks get so worked up over somebody else's taste in sex. Do you care about their taste in food? Both sex and food are bodily functions - they both have people who have different tastes. Why is taste in sex so much more important than taste in sex?

104 posted on 04/21/2006 11:35:30 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: rudabaga
well what mental tests do you propose for all judges then? because i guess anyone on prozac is out, or fear of flying, or who does anything you don't like. maybe being a lawyer makes me a little less hysterical than you, there are good judges and bad judges and frankly, their sexual orientation plays little role in how most rule from the bench.

Someone who is an out homosexual should not be named to any bench, in my opinion. The clandestine ones have done enough damage.
105 posted on 04/21/2006 11:44:20 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their children is siblings. Lots of 'em.)
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To: Tokra
I've never understood why some folks get so worked up over somebody else's taste in sex.

Oh, I don't know. Maybe BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FORCE IT ON OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN?

Perhaps that has something to do with it?
106 posted on 04/21/2006 11:45:57 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their children is siblings. Lots of 'em.)
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To: sofaman
to YOU that is normal! So live your life the way YOU see fit instead of pontificating about the lives of others. Sweep your own doorstep before concerning yourself with the lives of others.

You appear to be a proponent of the philosophy that there are no real truths, only relativistic perspectives. That kind of mushy thinking is what is degrading our society to the point where we are now experiencing pathologies, such as youth crime, teen pregnancy, explosions in venereal disease, skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births, etc. in mind-blowing proportions as compared to mere decades ago.

As much as you may wish to deny it, there are absolute truths. One of those truths is that mainstream acceptance of what were once considered sexually immoral or perverted acts has led to the above societal pathologies, a cause-and-effect relationship which, in itself, demonstrates the disordered nature of those behaviors and attitudes. Even if I were to believe that your friend was a true exception, that is not grounds for abandoning the entire principle and accepting homosexuality as normal and healthy. In that case, your friend may be the one homosexual in 1,000, or even in 10,000, who conducts his life in a way that would not be damaging, but that is not grounds for then treating all of the other 999 or 9,999 as healthy as well. Do you understand that point?
107 posted on 04/21/2006 11:51:42 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Tokra
If I had a case before a judge - I don't think what the judge does in bed would have much bearing on my case.

It goes beyond what they do in bed. Clearly if they are driven to abuse their bodies for some warped and unnatural gratification then they have deeper mental disorders that should be addressed before they are to take on serious responsibilities. They are no different than people who gain sexual gratification from starting fires or killing animals.

Do you ask your judge if they indulge in oral sex before you'll let them hear your case?

No, but occasional unnatural behavior is a far cry from the "identity psyche" that drives mentally disturbed people such as homosexuals. If such a judge were to go around declaring himself as an "oralsexual" person and marched in parades with oral sex themes, and placed stickers on his car and demanded that government teach children in schools about his unnatural sexual practices, then yes that would concern me.

I've never understood why some folks get so worked up over somebody else's taste in sex. Do you care about their taste in food? Both sex and food are bodily functions

Again their disturbed behavior transcends "taste" in sexual positions. And yes, I would care about their taste in food if they went around eating rocks or drinking motor oil. Such things might not kill them but would likely make them sick (the way homosexual sex does). Such behavior would also be indicative of a disturbed person whom I wouldn't want to serve as a superior court judge.

108 posted on 04/21/2006 12:09:47 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
This made it to DU, talking about how many Freepers here are too reasonable and will be zotted soon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x987123

I've been a member her for years and I'm also a lesbian, but I'm trapped in a man's body.
109 posted on 04/21/2006 12:13:30 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Clearly if they are driven to abuse their bodies for some warped and unnatural gratification..."

what do lesbians do to abuse their bodies?

"starting fires or killing animals."

hmm, starting fires destroys property and puts lives in jeopardy. killing animals, well, kills them. being a lesbian...um, i'm lost. one of these things is not like the others.


110 posted on 04/21/2006 12:18:18 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: mjwise
I wouldn't think it would matter what term were used - the point is mental health. They act contrary to the paradigm that material reality demands of their sex. I can't see that as mental health. Not appropriate for a judge.

111 posted on 04/21/2006 12:24:20 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

not surprised of the pro-homo response here at FR as this planet turns dangerously more liberal...


112 posted on 04/21/2006 12:37:55 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: tylendel
It's obviously a mental illness. Just like paying inflated prices for lots directly over the San Andreas fault.

113 posted on 04/21/2006 12:39:50 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

I am unhappy over liberal activist judges, but her sexual orientation doesn't bother me in the least. If Tammy Bruce were on the bench, I'd cheer. If I got sent to her courtroom, I'd know I was in fair hands.


114 posted on 04/21/2006 12:43:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sofaman
"This is the way neighbors described the Wichita mass murderer last year." A breathtaking statement. So someone that is a G-d fearing Christian, lives a responsible life, instilling in their children strong family and life values, is now compared to the BTK killer because he is a homosexual? That ranks right up there with some of the most egregiously ridiculous statements ever made on FR.

Pay attention.

My point was that superfical observations of neighbors, observations you submitted, are by no means sufficient to declare a diagnosis of a clean bill of mental health. The people of Wichita made similar observations and clearly their neighbor was in fact sick and twisted. I'm not suggesting your neighbors are mass murderers. However they probably do have all kinds of psychological problems related to their disordered behavior.

115 posted on 04/21/2006 12:43:50 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ContemptofCourt
homosexuals now have "emotional and mental disorders" and should be barred from serving as judges?

They always have had those disorders. It's just been politcally incorrect to mention in recent years. And yes, people with mental orders should not serve as judges.

116 posted on 04/21/2006 1:01:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yikes! What a thread!

Gay Lobby meets Free Republic?


117 posted on 04/21/2006 1:19:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I think some of those same DUers are posting on this thread.


118 posted on 04/21/2006 1:22:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: ElkGroveDan
No, but occasional unnatural behavior is a far cry from the "identity psyche" that drives mentally disturbed people such as homosexuals. If such a judge were to go around declaring himself as an "oralsexual" person and marched in parades with oral sex themes, and placed stickers on his car and demanded that government teach children in schools about his unnatural sexual practices, then yes that would concern me.

If this judge has done that - then I would agree with you. However just the fact that she is homosexual should not have anything to do with her ability to do her job.

119 posted on 04/21/2006 1:27:46 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Antoninus
Oh, I don't know. Maybe BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FORCE IT ON OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN?

"They"? Guess what - all homosexuals are not a unified block that does and think alike. If this particular judge is trying to "force it on our families" - then I agree with you. But just the fact that she is homosexual does not mean she is an activist.

I know people who are vegetarians. I also know people who are violent PETA activists. They shouldn't be lumped together as though they are exactly the same.

Homosexuals are cops, firemen, factory workers, lawyers, football players, doctors and everything else under the sun. They are also liberals, conservatives, libertarians and everything in between.

You cannot say that "they" are all alike and that "they" all have the same agenda, no more that all blacks are alike, or all Jews are alike, or all people who shave their heads are all alike.

That's a liberal ploy. You would think that conservatives, if anyone, should know that individuals should be treated and judged as individuals - not as a unified group.

I'd be willing to bet any amount of money you want to name, that there are people you know that are homosexuals and you would have absolutely no idea. Many of them are married men with wives and children - they could be your mailman or your local grocer. Not all homosexuals march around with limp wrists waving rainbow flags.

I knew a homosexual man years ago that was a professional football player ( I won't mention the team - because I promised him I never would). You would not think in a million years that this man liked sex with men. You can't judge a book by its cover.

120 posted on 04/21/2006 1:39:00 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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