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President expresses regret over protestor

Posted on 04/20/2006 1:12:25 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has expressed regret to China's president for a protester at the White House welcoming ceremony.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bush43; hu; huvisit; unappeasables
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To: iluvlucy

Yeah, and this was also just about the same time the president was talking about freedom and democracy in China.

Dam hypocritical, IMHO.

Just goes to prove something I have felt for a long time about politicians.
They don't get elected because of what they DO, they get elected because of what they SAY.

And after they get elected, they are totally free to turn around and DO the TOTAL OPPOSITE of what they SAID.

There is better honor among thieves.


61 posted on 04/20/2006 2:08:44 PM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: cva66snipe
thanks for that.

Bush later addressed the matter when he met with Hu in the Oval Office. "He just said this was unfortunate and I'm sorry it happened," said Dennis Wilder, acting senior director for Asian affairs on the National Security Council staff.

for myself I'd still like to see the actual quote...but maybe its not available beyond what this dude (Dennis) tells us.

Reason. Maybe he's sorry it happened becuase he's sorry the chinese are a bunch of commies and dont allow people the right to speak freely.

62 posted on 04/20/2006 2:11:30 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: pollyannaish

"It took them a bit to let Cindy go. What if this woman had been armed?"

She was in there on a legal press pass that she had been given. They check everyone who comes in for arms. False arguments.


63 posted on 04/20/2006 2:11:38 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Ya' know, George, the first 5 or 10 stupid things you did, we as your conservative base were willing to give you a pass, because you seemed so solid on the WOT. Now all we can see is one bungle after another-- we're sensatized to it.

I held my nose and went out to pull the lever for you in 2000 and 2004. I felt just as used as when I did the same for your "moderate" daddy.

I got what I deserved. Again.

64 posted on 04/20/2006 2:12:59 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Welcome to Meximerica, courtesy of the GOP.)
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To: b2stealth

Easy big boy...in this country we assassinate only our own leaders...not foreign leaders....regardless of how much they may or may not deserve it.


65 posted on 04/20/2006 2:13:50 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: b2stealth
Then she would be an officer of GRU or ChiCom intel or Al Qaeda.

Guesswork and speculation are not good substitutes for facts. Or don't you read the NYTimes, WPost and others?

66 posted on 04/20/2006 2:15:17 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Antoninus; MissAmericanPie
Yeah, speaking out against evil is just so wrong...

Ok. Come back and let us know how it goes when "Code Pinkos" shout down what they call "evil" Bush/Rice etal. It's all good "speak truth to da powah",right?

67 posted on 04/20/2006 2:16:48 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: flaglady47
She was in there on a legal press pass that she had been given. They check everyone who comes in for arms. False arguments.

Proving once again that the big fat mouth is mightier than the .357 magnum.

For Soothe!

68 posted on 04/20/2006 2:17:22 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: flaglady47

True. But a legal press pass means that you agree to certain things...and not heckling the people you are covering is one of them.

Like I said, she did what she did and it may indeed have been heroic. But she knew the consequences ahead of time. Sometimes doing the right thing does not mean there won't be negative consequences.

I'm just saying that if she did not want to be arrested...then this was not the place to protest. Perhaps if she wanted to be heard, it was.

I believe this was a situation where nobody is morally wrong.


69 posted on 04/20/2006 2:17:53 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: iluvlucy

Who said anything about arresting the woman?

Must have missed that part.


70 posted on 04/20/2006 2:18:38 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: flaglady47
She was in there on a legal press pass that she had been given.

So you're in favor of any journalist yelling whatever he wants at a White House state function without penalty? Or just when you agree with what they yell?

Why not just have "open mike"?
71 posted on 04/20/2006 2:30:19 PM PDT by kenavi ("You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes." Rambam)
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To: wallcrawlr
for myself I'd still like to see the actual quote...but maybe its not available beyond what this dude (Dennis) tells us.

I have an idea it was all said out of public and press eye and ear shot. The best we'll get as an offical release "He said".

Reason. Maybe he's sorry it happened becuase he's sorry the chinese are a bunch of commies and dont allow people the right to speak freely.

No I don't think so. If he and his family had that much of a dislike they would renounce family business ties to China. That as well damages our foreign policy and sends the wrong message.

72 posted on 04/20/2006 2:31:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: kenavi

So you're in favor of any journalist yelling whatever he wants at a White House state function without penalty? Or just when you agree with what they yell?

No, but I don't believe they should press charges and throw her in the klink either. Then we are just like China, aren't we?


73 posted on 04/20/2006 2:34:50 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: cva66snipe
The best we'll get as an offical release "He said".

Yep

No I don't think so. If he and his family had that much of a dislike they would renounce family business ties to China. That as well damages our foreign policy and sends the wrong message.

Well, I dont agree with that part. Am I also not supposed to buy anything from China?
There are more people besides the Presidents family having business dealings with China. Are we all a bunch of commie lovers?

74 posted on 04/20/2006 2:36:13 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
"President expresses regret over protestor"

Why, he usually appreciates the demonstration of free speech.

75 posted on 04/20/2006 2:36:48 PM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: kenavi

P.S. I believe this situation is a special circumstance, as the gov't that she is protesting jails people with dissenting viewpoints and who attempt free speech. So, to prove how China is doing wrong, we jail her for exercising free speech? A bit of a contradiction, isn't it?


76 posted on 04/20/2006 2:37:49 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Lunatic Fringe
She also shouted in Chinese, "President Hu, your days are numbered,"

Well, if that's what she said, then I can understand them treating it is a potential threat.

77 posted on 04/20/2006 2:44:28 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Lunatic Fringe
WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has expressed regret to China's president for a protester at the White House welcoming ceremony.

Never assume much based on what the AP says Bush did.

Even when the AP quotes Bush you can't assume much unless you know the full context from which the quote was taken.

In this case there isn't even a quote.

I do think it would be more appropriate for Bush to refuse to meet with China's president. However, I don't expect a reasonable presentation of the facts on this from the AP.

After all do you remember the AP printing this kind of thing when Clinton was dealing with the Chinese?

78 posted on 04/20/2006 2:53:19 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: b2stealth
You forgot "not following the line of Communist Party" and "being American spy"..

No I didn't.

You missed my point.

Let me put it this way:

She was allowed into a restricted event, she broke the protocals that she had agreed to to get in. The WH moderator's zotted her.

79 posted on 04/20/2006 3:00:48 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
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To: pollyannaish

Regarding your post #53: Well stated. I fully concur.


80 posted on 04/20/2006 3:02:40 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
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