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RUDY HITS HILL - Yank's Her Chain on Team
NY Post ^ | 4/19/06

Posted on 04/19/2006 6:33:31 AM PDT by areafiftyone

April 19, 2006 -- BLUE BELL, Pa. - Rudy Giuliani took a few swipes at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton yesterday while campaigning for a Republican senator. In a speech on behalf of Sen. Rick Santorum, Giuliani recalled that for most of his mayoralty, there was one Republican and one Democratic senator representing New York. MO< "[For] one year, I had Hillary," he mock-complained, drawing laughter.

After a pause, he continued: "There's that book that just came out . . . [it] points out that one thing that Hillary and I do have in common: We're both Yankee fans. I became a Yankee fan growing up in New York. She became a Yankee fan growing up in Chicago."

Giuliani's reference to the latest anti-Hillary tome, which accuses her of pandering, recalled his jabs at Clinton's non-New York roots when they headed for a showdown in the 2000 Senate race, before he withdrew.

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To: freeperfromnj

Well .. I would support Rudy any day of the week. He's not perfect - but nether is life.

THE KEY IS BEATING HILLARY! Does anybody with a brain want that mess back in the White House ..??


21 posted on 04/19/2006 7:14:57 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: areafiftyone

Rudy.....

He's got my vote.


22 posted on 04/19/2006 7:22:14 AM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: Blackirish

If he decides to run - he's got mine. But whomever wins the primary even if its not Rudy will get my vote too! I refuse to let that evil witch in the White House.


23 posted on 04/19/2006 7:24:35 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Blessed
Did anybody know Rudy's ex-wife?

If you did, you would understand why he left her.

Some women are not only nuts, but just plumb crazy.

24 posted on 04/19/2006 7:24:50 AM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: staytrue

Dear staytrue,

"Open minded rinos will support conservatives, but for 'real conservatives' supporting 'rinos,' You can forget it."

Funny, from where I sit, it doesn't seem that way at all. I'm in Maryland, and voted and supported our current Republican governor, Bob Ehrlich, even though he's quite far from being a Republican conservative. I notice that Sen. Santorum pulled out all the stops for Mr. Specter, even though there was a viable, real, actual, genuine conservative who could have won the nomination. Many of us were supportive of Mr. Schwarzenegger in California, and of Mr. Giuliani when he was running for different office in New York.

We recognize that real, conservative Republicans aren't going to play well with every electorate in every state.

But the office of President of the United States of America is a little different. Mr. Giuliani might pass for a Republican in New York, but not nationally. It is important that an actual Republican run for the presidency as the Republican nominee, rather than a liberal who calls himself a Republican.

I have nothing against Mr. Giuliani, I think he's a swell guy. If he wants to be mayor of New York City, or a US Senator from New York, or governor of New York, I'll cheer him on. Heck, I might even be persuaded to send a small donation.

But I won't support him or vote for him for President of the United States.


sitetest


25 posted on 04/19/2006 7:26:35 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: freeperfromnj
Most important issue IMO is continuity in the War on Terror after President Bush leaves office -- Rudy will deliver.

I've heard this point made countless times, and yet I've never seen anyone present any kind of solid evidence to support it.

26 posted on 04/19/2006 7:29:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
During the Republican Convention Rudy strongly supported W in the WOT. It was his support, along with Tommy Franks and a number of other Republicans who helped the President get re-elected. He lived 9/11, lost people that were close to him on 9/11 and I've never heard him say anything to indicate that he no longer supports the war. My personal dream ticket would be Franks-Giuliani in '08. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any indication that Franks has expressed any interest. I do know that we need to put someone with name recognition out there.
27 posted on 04/19/2006 7:41:15 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: sitetest

You said, in part: Nonetheless, I won't vote for Mr. Giuliani for president.
***

Would you vote for Hillary, or essentially do so by not voting at all, if Giuliani were to be the candidate?


28 posted on 04/19/2006 7:43:43 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: OldFriend
Truth be told, the folks who wouldn't support Rudy don't support our President either.

Wow ignorant. I support Bush and would support Rudy over McCain.
29 posted on 04/19/2006 7:47:30 AM PDT by Element187
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To: areafiftyone
Jeeze that didn't take long. Regardless of how you feel about Rudy - NOONE does more to raise money for the Republicans than Giuliani. That's what's important her NOT social issue!

I agree. Rudy is a tough, and very patriotic man. I disagree with him on one or two issues, but he is strong and can make tough decisions. I can't imagine anyone who took the bull by the horns that Rudy did on 911.

30 posted on 04/19/2006 7:59:57 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: NCLaw441

Dear NCLaw441,

"Would you vote for Hillary, or essentially do so by not voting at all, if Giuliani were to be the candidate?"

No, I wouldn't vote for Mrs. Clinton. However, not voting for Mr. Giuliani is not the same as voting for Mrs. Clinton. It is not voting for Mr. Giuliani. In terms of the actual arithmetic of an election, although failing to vote for Mr. Giuliani would aid Mrs. Clinton, it wouldn't assist her as much as an actual vote for Mrs. Clinton.

However, that really all misses the point. The point is that if Mr. Giuliani is nominated by the Republican Party, a significant portion of the Republican coalition will be effectively disenfranchised in that the two candidates will be virtually indistinguishable on the issues that matter most to social conservatives. We will have already lost the election.

It would be different if the party wished to nominate someone who wasn't especially good on the primary social conservative issues. Someone like Sen. Allen, who appears to be in favor of overturning Roe, but who is not really all that pro-life, or someone like Sen. McCain, who may not be entirely sincere about our issues, would be acceptable, at least to me. We'd be getting a half loaf, or at least some significant part of the loaf that mattered to us. That's called compromise, settling for someone who isn't ideal, but who gives you some of what you want.

In Mr. Giuliani, however, we have the ideal candidate to drive away social conservatives. He's pro-abortion, including pro-partial birth abortion, pro-government-paid abortion, etc. He's pro-homosexual marriage, pro-homosexual adoption. He's very anti-RBKA (an important matter to many social conservatives). Furthermore, he's shown antipathy to other parts of the conservative platform, especially tax cuts. He loudly endorsed Mr. Cuomo over Mr. Pataki, and that's at a time when Mr. Pataki was behaving like a genuine budget-cutting conservative.

With Mr. Giuliani, we social conservatives not only don't get a half loaf, or even a slice, but not even a crumb. And we can hardly console ourselves that at least he's on board with the rest of the conservative agenda. With Mr. Giuliani, we essentially get someone who is a thorough-going liberal on every issue except the war.

I'm sorry, that's just not enough for my vote. If the rest of the party insists on a candidate that is absolutely unacceptable to a large group belonging to the party's coalition, then the party must expect to lose a significant percentage of that group.


sitetest


31 posted on 04/19/2006 8:00:36 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Blessed

So if it was a choice between the witch or Rudy protecting this country are you going to stay home?


32 posted on 04/19/2006 8:03:05 AM PDT by Antique Gal (Antique Gal)
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To: AppyPappy

....."Lincoln Chaffee used to be a good Republican.
".........

Lincoln Chaffee has always been good for nothing.

He was a small town mayor, when his dad died in office, and was elevated way above his talent level by the governor.


33 posted on 04/19/2006 8:06:16 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Blackirish
Rudy.....

He's got my vote.

Mine too. I spent 15 years in upstate NY and have followed Rudy for quite some time. He's a tough man and can make tough decisions. Too few folks have read his resume, nor have observed him in action.

34 posted on 04/19/2006 8:12:08 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: sitetest

Site:
Thank you for your detailed and courteous reply. I certainly won't quarrel with you regarding Giuliani's conservative bona fides, or lack thereof, at least not for the purpose of this discussion. I do disagree about not voting for a candidate being practically any different than voting for the opponent. We have lived through presidential elections in which it was clear that every vote counts, and may be decisive.

Seldom have I voted for a candidate that meets all of MY qualifications. I do not typically vote solely on the basis of party affiliation, but will do so when I don't have enough information about the candidate, or when the two candidates seem otherwise indistinguishable from each other. I tend to prioritize my issues, and vote for the candidate who best appears (I have been fooled more than once by false promises) to embrace my highest priorities better than the other candidate(s). Unless I am utterly without a clue, I never fail to vote for whom I believe to be the better candidate, even if neither candidate is truly worthy of a vote. This method may not be totally honorable, but if I thought that my vote, or failure to vote, might decide an election, especially one in which any Clinton was running, and I failed to vote... well, let's not imagine that. I even voted for Dole in '96, when few thought there was much chance he would win (although he did get NC, as I recall).

Thank you again for your response, which I shall review again after posting this.


35 posted on 04/19/2006 8:17:44 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Element187
I said that people who won't support Rudy don't support the President either.

I support the President, being a committed Bushbot, and would vote for Rudy too.

36 posted on 04/19/2006 8:18:12 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; JohnnyZ; AntiGuv; Torie; Clemenza
The plot for the 2008 Presidential race thickens. Earlier this year, Rudy came out swinging for Judge Alito. Now he is supporting Santorum to show GOP primary voters that he is the friend of social conservatives. With more Rudy endorsements for socially conservative candidates, the 2008 primary may not be as contentious as the McCain vs Bush contest of 2000.
37 posted on 04/19/2006 8:19:02 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: zarf
Some women are not only nuts, but just plumb crazy.

She was given to monologues, I understand.

38 posted on 04/19/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Blessed
Who he is supporting has no bearing on his personnel values which are not acceptable to the majority of conservatives.

I'm a conservative and I think his hiring practices as mayor were fine.

39 posted on 04/19/2006 8:20:56 AM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: Kuksool
WTF! Are you brain dead? There is no way MAYOR McCheese of Noo Yawk will get the nomination:

1. Pro-illegal immigration.

2. Anti-gun.

3. Pro-gay.

4. Immoral hypocrite.

5. Scumbag friends.

6. Mixed fiscal record.

7. A total a--hole as a person.

THe only people who believe Rudy the RINO has a chance at the nomination are the idiots who believe what they read in the NY Post. GET A CLUE MORONS! RUDY AINT GOING TO GET IT!

40 posted on 04/19/2006 8:22:15 AM PDT by Clemenza (Amor de mi Vida, Donde Estas?)
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