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The fateful hour has arrived
Jewish World Review ^ | 17 April 2006 | Caroline B. Glick

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:09:54 PM PDT by Candor7

This week Iran presented the US with the ultimate challenge and Washington must now make a decision. Is it fighting to win?

Since the September 11 jihadist attacks on the US mainland, President George W. Bush has stated repeatedly that the greatest threat to global security is the specter of rogue regimes and terror groups acquiring weapons of mass destruction. At his January 2002 State of the Union address, the president declared that the regimes of Iran, North Korea and Iraq comprised an axis of evil and a central goal — indeed the most crucial goal — of the US-led war was to prevent them from acquiring or maintaining arsenals of weapons of mass destruction.

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This week Teheran threw down the gauntlet. The greatest battle of this war - the battle to prevent the world's most dangerous regime from attaining the most dangerous weapons known to man — has begun. The moment has arrived for President George W. Bush to make clear if he is, in the final analysis, the leader of the free world or its undertaker.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: allbutdeclared; challenge; iran; irannukes; islamofascist; pact; potus; thisisit; war
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To: Gaffer

So I'm to take it that you are indifferent WMD strike on Jews? How about a WMD strike on black people? Jews in the US are only about 60% Dem these days while blacks are 85%+.


21 posted on 04/18/2006 3:56:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters
What on earth gave you that idea?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Quote: Unreported by the MSM ( you gotta dig)

April 17

This week, the US tried again to engage North Korea at a symposium in Tokyo. Pyongyang reacted by threatening America with destruction. North Korea's Defense Minister Kim Il Chol said last Saturday that in the event of a US strike on the country, North Korea, "will mobilize its political-ideological might and military potentials built up generation after generation and mercilessly wipe out the enemies and thus viciously conclude the stand-off with the US."

The US chief negotiator, Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, responded to Pyongyang's call to obliterate America by saying, "We've got the right format, the right deal on the table — the September deal — so we have to be a little patient and realize that this is the right approach." ( wrong response?)

[http://jewishworldreview.com/0406/glick041706.php3]

22 posted on 04/18/2006 3:57:30 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7

Our subs, and Guam are more than ready.

LLS


23 posted on 04/18/2006 4:06:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: frankiep
If we were to go into Iran, the public outcry would be unprecedented.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That depends on what the Iranaina attack will be. Its only a matter of time. Iran has removed all of its gold resources from European financial institutions as of last week. A sure sign they are about to act.

The piublic may end up demanding we go to war, especially if the Bustards float a nuclear mine down the Gulf and set it off.

24 posted on 04/18/2006 4:08:07 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7

I agree that withdrawing the gold from European banks is a worrisome sign, but it may be in anticipation of UN sanctions.

Having said that, Iran's president is a genuine kook. I used to think that Kim Jong Il was a nutcase, but now I am thinking he just wants to ride the tiger and stay in power as long as he can. Ultimately, he wants to survive.

This Iranian nutzo is a different can of worms. He really does believe the crap he is venting to the world. We are going to have to take him at his word and take him out.


25 posted on 04/18/2006 4:17:42 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: frankiep
"I'm just saying this because of what Iraq has taught all of us. Militarily, we are certainly doing a great job in Iraq. It is public opinion that is killing us."

That's understandable, too. But we have a chance to stop the source of the "insurgents" from Iran. Also, Iran has set up missile sites against our troops in Iraq, according to recent news. If we pull them out instead of putting Iran's military down, public opinion will go much more against us. If we pull them out to save them from Iran, we will have given up on the War on Terror. The consequences would be unthinkable, IMO.
26 posted on 04/18/2006 4:25:29 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
....not to mention the cities on our east coast....

Well.....I guess that this is GOD be with You All [otherwise known as Good-Bye];

see most of you in HEAVEN, prayerfully.

27 posted on 04/18/2006 5:21:53 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: Candor7
North Korea's Defense Minister Kim Il Chol said last Saturday that in the event of a US strike on the country, North Korea, "will mobilize its political-ideological might and military potentials built up generation after generation and mercilessly wipe out the enemies and thus viciously conclude the stand-off with the US."

They've been saying the same thing for the last five years.

28 posted on 04/18/2006 5:26:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Candor7
"Events are quickly overtaking him, and we will likely be at war with Iran within the next month , if not sooner.

Oil, gold and silver prices seem to support your opinion. I filled up my 'hurricane' 100 gallon gasoline tank a while back at $2.19 a gallon.

29 posted on 04/18/2006 5:36:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ronin
Hi Ya Ronin!

(BTW my son is on his way to Dai Nihon in a week, for a second stint at teaching ESL, at Kanazawa. He was in a little yown called Ichinomiya last time, near Nagoya.)

I hope that Nihon is watching its 6, Kim Jong Il may be about to pull some nastiness if the USA is attacked by Iran.

I hope the gold withdrawl by Iran was in anticipation of possible UN sanctions, but those are still at least a couple of months off, if they come at all thanks to Russia and China.

Tex Mex Chili: I lb of hamburg ( use ground beef , chicken or pork), 6 ounces of semi sweet bakers chocolate, 3 ounces of chili peppers, 3 red peppers, 3 green peppers, 2x12 oz. cans of kidney beans, and 4 oz. of chili powder, 1 bulb of fresh garlic, and 1 large onion, olive or corn oil, one can of Sapporo beer, one small 8 oz. can of tomato paste.

Pour the cooking oil into the cooking vessel to cover bottom. Chop up all the vegetables to a size you prefer, I like em on the big side so they don't turn to mush. Crush the garlic and chop it fine.

Heat up the cooking pot until the oil begins to smoke and put in the meat with onions, garlic and chili peppers. Fry until the meat is about half cooked, stirring so as not to burn the garlic. Put in the chili powder and chopped up chocolate, stir until well combined. Pop the top on the Sapporo and pour it in ( oh the foam, love it!), add the tomato paste and stir. Bring to a simmer and add all the vegetables and beans. Let simmer on very low heat about 20 minutes to a half hour, stirring frequently so the bottom of the mixture does not burn. Salt to taste.

Serve the chili over rice and/or corn, and use another ice cold Sapporo to go with the meal. Warning: It's HOT.

The chili leftover gets better every time you heat it up.

(Writing this has made me hungry, off to dinner I go!)

30 posted on 04/18/2006 5:38:31 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: SuziQ
They've been saying the same thing for the last five years.

I hope to God that you are right.

31 posted on 04/18/2006 5:47:03 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7

What a know-it-all and control freak. This woman wants war so badly she is seething with hatred.


32 posted on 04/18/2006 6:15:56 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one. From the day of our Founding, we have proclaimed that every man and woman on this earth has rights, and dignity, and matchless value, because they bear the image of the Maker of Heaven and Earth. Across the generations we have proclaimed the imperative of self-government, because no one is fit to be a master, and no one deserves to be a slave. Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our Nation. It is the honorable achievment of our fathers. Now it is the urgent requirement or our nation's security, and the calling of our time. - George W. Bush

I liked your quote so much that I thought in this time of uncertainty, that it might do us all some good to read it!

Thanks!

33 posted on 04/18/2006 6:48:34 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: familyop

I agree with what you say. I'm just trying to look at it from the point of view of the typical, uninformed American whose main concern is who is going to be the next winner on American Idol. Like it or not, most people in this country have no idea about what is going on, other than what the anti-American media/hollywood tells them. Of course this wouldn't be as much of a problem if Bush could do a better job of explaining the necessity of any action. But as I'm sure we have all noticed, he doesn't seem either capable of, or concerned with, sufficiently making his case in such matters.


34 posted on 04/18/2006 7:08:46 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: frankiep

I'll agree with that and go a step further. Hillary said that she wouldn't run in 2004 and would in 2008. She implied sure knowledge without reason of what will happen in the future. Was she being a blabbermouth, or are we not running through some sort of Ford-Dole-like motion for 2008?

Can one "milk" a "male" horse? Maybe that's about to be proven for Baby Boomer politics, but I don't think the next generation will put up with as much as we have.


35 posted on 04/18/2006 11:16:09 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: frankiep

But then again, maybe the President's busy. Maybe he'll soon give an address to us from a secured Iran.


36 posted on 04/19/2006 3:38:05 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: thoughtomator
I'm not indifferent to WMDs being used on Israel. My use of the term " first move " does not necessarily require that WMDs would have been used. What I was saying is that we (collective WE in the US, not just the 1-2% of the population who are Jews) need to make decisions based on the overall welfare of the US and what Iran does to jeopardize that welfare. We should not be goaded or spooked into action by "Chicken Littles" who have an extra-territorial allegiance.

While the Jewish breakdown by persuasions (60% dem, you say) may be true, the influence of the liberal Jewish slant is prevalent in the MSM by my reckoning.

37 posted on 04/19/2006 6:59:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: familyop
.... Would you really like to take a chance on Iran destroying western Europe just to see the Jews in Israel exterminated?

I never said I wanted to see Jews in Israel exterminated (see post 37), and your accusation of such is exactly the type of thing that I am concerned about...wild claims and emotionally wrought fervor untempered by logic.

38 posted on 04/19/2006 7:03:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: familyop

See post 37 and 38. I also resent being called a neo-NAZI because I don't hold the same allegiance to Israel as you do. You people stop putting unprinted words in my post! As far as I'm concerned, people like you are willing to drag the US into anything simply because of bunch of, as yet, unsubstantiated reports and bravado statements.


39 posted on 04/19/2006 7:07:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: frankiep

Unless Congress declares war on Iran, Bush should not act.


40 posted on 04/19/2006 7:13:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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