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Army Told Not to Use Israeli Bullets in Iraq (06-24-2004)
My way news ^ | 06-24-2004 | Anon

Posted on 04/18/2006 7:10:51 AM PDT by white trash redneck

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To: NonValueAdded
re :Holy psyops, Batman, don't those politicians have a clue?

The Army does have a clue which is why they would not use tactics such as those you mentioned, it will have a negative not a positive effect.

21 posted on 04/18/2006 7:21:46 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: white trash redneck

right....we shouldnt use those.


we should instead use new ammo, using bullets prepared by dipping in pigs blood.


22 posted on 04/18/2006 7:22:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SJackson
re :This is reasonable, we certainly don't want to get the terrorists angry with us.

No we don't want to lose the support of the local population who we need to win the war in Iraq and to turn it into a stable western friendly nation

23 posted on 04/18/2006 7:23:23 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh

re :Holy psyops, Batman, don't those politicians have a clue?
The Army does have a clue which is why they would not use tactics such as those you mentioned, it will have a negative not a positive effect.

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And...how is that working out for them so far? Oh yeah, that's right...they are pouring over the borders to keep fighting. Their weakness....find their weakness. 101 in fighting ANYTHING.


24 posted on 04/18/2006 7:24:36 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

I'm not going to join in the calls for bullets dipped in pig fat, or pork-blood centered bullets, because I think that sort of thing is immature, uncalled for, and even asinine.

With that said, I can't #*%*@! believe there's even an ATTEMPT to control which bullets are being fired at which targets. There is no realistic reason to do something like that.

Even if the reasoning behind this was to prevent certain Arab factions from using the Israeli bullets as "proof" to rile up their fellows to push for an attack on Israel, the argument falls short. Aren't they already going after Israel? I'm pretty sure a few bullets wouldn't change things significantly.

What a bunch of bluetards.


25 posted on 04/18/2006 7:24:50 AM PDT by HushTX (Annex Mexico.)
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To: white trash redneck
This article is almost two years old (June 2004).

Here's the FR post from back then: U.S. BRASS BARS ISRAEL BULLETS - June 25, 2004

26 posted on 04/18/2006 7:25:03 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: tonycavanagh

If Al Queda insurgents were backed into a corner and the only ammo they had to use was captured Israeli ordinance, they'd use it.


27 posted on 04/18/2006 7:25:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: white trash redneck
"U.S. lawmakers told Army generals on Thursday. "
Which US lawmaker???? Which Army Generals?? Sounds like the drive by media strikes again!!!!!!!
28 posted on 04/18/2006 7:26:31 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Vote YES! on Lake Iran......)
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To: tonycavanagh

I give you the age-old story about the kidnapped KGB agent and the Bobbit treatment to free him. We cannot continue to apply Western values when interpreting how our actions will be received. Weakness does not gain respect in the eyes of our enemy. And it isn't the Army requesting this, it is the RATs on the armed services committee.


29 posted on 04/18/2006 7:26:36 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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To: white trash redneck

Satire? This is really gay.. and insane. Gee, let me see, there is a terrorist about to shoot me but I better check first to see if my Israeli made ammo isn't loaded... and I better wait until he moves away from the mosque.. and gee maybe it's prayer time...


30 posted on 04/18/2006 7:28:28 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: tonycavanagh

You British can try all you want, whether or not as collaborators with the Arab world, but you simply cannot wish away that sh***y little country, Israel.

If we need bullets or other armaments to do our work in Israel or elsewhere, there simply is no moral justification to let our troops be put in harms way because we are willing to capitulate to anti-Semitism -- if this episode does not in fact constitute our outright engaging in it.


31 posted on 04/18/2006 7:29:45 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: HushTX
With that said, I can't #*%*@! believe there's even an ATTEMPT to control which bullets are being fired at which targets. There is no realistic reason to do something like that.

War is not a video game.

You should not be afraid of hurting the enemies' feelings.....after all, you're trying to kill them!!

I'll get MY pig blood centered bullets dipped in Holy Water first.

32 posted on 04/18/2006 7:31:46 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: All

“I am hit — praise be to Allah! — by a Crusader, not a Zionist bullet.”


33 posted on 04/18/2006 7:32:20 AM PDT by dighton
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To: tonycavanagh
No we don't want to lose the support of the local population who we need to win the war in Iraq and to turn it into a stable western friendly nation

Do you really think that's high on the list of issues they have with us? From what I recall of this, it was an issue initially raised by politicians here in the US, not our military.

34 posted on 04/18/2006 7:33:07 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: white trash redneck

This is just too stoopid for words!


35 posted on 04/18/2006 7:33:53 AM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (It's not immigration, it's an invasion!)
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To: MadeInAmerica
In COIN war a terrorists most important weapon is to be able to assimilate themselves within a host/local population.

Remove the populations support and that is then there major weakness.

This is what are forces have been doing over there.

This has led to better intelligence gathering with more local people coming forward with information on terrorist cells and supply points. Leading to a number of successful operations.

The training of the new Iraq army is also starting to bare fruit.

And local people of started to deal with the foreign terrorists them self's, even reported on this very site.

I am all for fighting with every weapon in the Armory, but it has to be the right weapon at the right time, in the right terrine.

36 posted on 04/18/2006 7:35:07 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
No, from 2004, if the date on the post is correct.
37 posted on 04/18/2006 7:40:27 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: white trash redneck

That suggestion regarding pig fat is a way to cement good relations with Muslims. Lighten up and think a little.


38 posted on 04/18/2006 7:41:58 AM PDT by MiHeat
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To: SJackson
re :From what I recall of this, it was an issue initially raised by politicians here in the US, not our military.

Have you heard about that film in Turkey, about the American Army fighting in Iraq, it was not enough to make the Americans seem like bloody thirsty women and child killers, after all many Arab army's are not what you would call a model of decency.

No the real punch was the Jewish Doctor trading in human body parts.

We have to be careful out there.

It would be a great piece of propaganda Americans using Israeli rounds to kill Muslims, would sen be changed to American troops killing Muslims for Jews.

I know many of you don't care and want this to be a war against Islam. Who cares about hearts and minds if we are going to kill or convert them all.

Well its not going to happen no matter people might want it to be.

You may not know it and I have not seen any mention about it on here, but it is not hidden knowledge, but America has stepped up the Soft war as well, using similar tactics perfected during the Cold War.

39 posted on 04/18/2006 7:43:19 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: white trash redneck

Why are you posting a story that's nearly two years old?


40 posted on 04/18/2006 7:43:48 AM PDT by blau993 (a/k/a IPW 993)
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