Posted on 04/18/2006 6:40:40 AM PDT by mathprof
Two Duke University lacrosse players were arrested early Tuesday on charges of rape, sexual offense and kidnapping, FOX News has confirmed.
Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, both 20 years old, were being held on $400,000 bond each. Seligmann had posted bond by 7:30 a.m. and Finnerty was in the process of doing so. By posting bond, the players avoid making an initial court appearance later Tuesday.
District Attorney Mike Nifong said authorities are still trying to identify a third assailant.
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They are going to drop a bomb on him shortly; one boy wasn't there at all and the other one evidently has credit card receipts, ATM receipts (and maybe an ATM picture), and a cab driver and a restaurant takeout order that shows he wasn't there at the time of the alleged assault.
Good: He is a gay basher, so [insert any bad assertion you like].
Bad: She is a stripper, so [insert any bad assertion you like].
I know this is off topic, but speaking of race cards and false accusations, whatever happened with Cynthia McKenney?
I haven't heard anything from that Grand Jury, have you?
According to reports of the original complaint, the stripper remembered the names because that's what she heard them calling one another, not because they told her their names.
But without DNA evidence the esteemed DA will have a hard time proving a case.
Especially when the stripper claims to have gouged one of them so deep that she lost her fake nails, yet had none of their DNA between her nails, even though all she did afterward, according to reports, is pass out in a car.
One of the little bits of dissembling on the part of the DA is that the main reason such a low percentage of rape cases have DNA evidence is because the victim showers and/or waits days before reporting the crime.
I think I found another misrepresentation by the DA.
I'm sure you remember how he misled the press into reporting that the dancer's $400.00 was found on the bathroom floor, when, in fact, $160.00 was found in another room of the residence. Apparently, the DA thought that the $160.00 was consistent with her 400.00 because it was in twenties.
The women are saying that early on a remark was made and that they took great offense to that and it went downhill from there. The Team's Defense lawyers are contending that the women locked themselves in the bathroom and the accuser did her NAILS. This is not insignificant because doing one's nails is NOT CONSISTENT with any of the other statements the two women have made. It also shows a comfort level, if one was to do their nails.
Okay, Here's where I think The DA is misleading.
On the search warrant of 610 Buchanan, it clearly states (and search warrants have to be exacting) that they found 5 fingernails - FIVE fingernails.
Later, when the DA is trying to get a Judge to approve an action by his office, DA-Nifong writes in an offical document that they recovered FOUR Red artificial nails consistent with the accuser's statement. The media picks up on this and it's reported EVERYWHERE that 4 Red polished artificial fingernails are found just like the woman told investigators they would find.
BUT THEY FOUND FIVE. The DA is specific when he describes them as 4 RED artificial CONSISTENT with the accuser's statement. I'm thinking the FIFTH nail is UNPOLISHED and that would bring veracity to the Boy's claim that she did her nails in that bathroom. This would be a huge departure from the story she has told the DA.
I really believe the DA (like the $400.00) is cherry picking the evidence and presenting to the Media what he feels is consistent and wholly ignoring (and not reporting) the inconsistencies.
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If this is true I hope that it permanently buries him.
There's a lot of MAYBEs in this case.
Maybe they used fake names. Maybe they drugged her (not in her complaint). Maybe they used invisible condoms. Maybe they used a towel. Maybe they doctored the photos. Maybe it was planned. Maybe she was traumatized. Maybe they just beat her.
All signs of an extremely weak case.
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Yes, if the story happened as she says it happened then it may still be true.
Yes there was a report of that, I heard it on the radio news. Which is why I was also very careful in my posts to state that it was a 'report', a rumor, and not yet substantiated.
Heard this all day Coleus...thanks for pinging me.
My question is, if these boys are found innocent, who will restore their reputations?
The story linked in Post #10 doesn't say anything about either suspect having gotten into trouble before.
"Normally"? Wrong. That is not a normal response.
However, some women might or do respond that way.
However, there are other women who have consensual sex and then decide to call it rape.
And the "deep pocket" rape accusers.
It's time to get rid of the anonymity "rule" for women making accusations. If they can jolly well: fight in the frontlines, run Fortune500 companies, they can certainly stand on their own two feet when they make charges against another person.
No DNA in OR on the woman that matched. Not even a hair, not even a skin cell found on a woman who claimed 3 men sodomized, raped, and beat her. She clawed, she says, one of them with her fingernails. Players were photographed. Not a scratch.
The players have received death threats at nearly onset of the "her-say-so".
I read today that Grand Juries bring 97% indictments....a prosecutors playground.
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