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George Allen to Senate: Secure the Borders
NewsMax ^ | 4/16/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 04/16/2006 10:48:10 AM PDT by wagglebee

2008 presidential hopeful George Allen urged his Senate colleagues on Sunday to "put the pedal to the metal" on immigration reform and "first and foremost, secure the borders."

"[For] the people out there in the real world . . . this is a hot issue," Sen. Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation." "I think the Senate needs to put the pedal to the metal, get moving, make decisions and first and foremost, secure the borders."

On some of the amnesty bills currently before Congress, Allen said: "We should not reward illegal behavior because all you'll get is more illegal behavior."

Asked if Republican-controlled Congress would "be hurt" by further inaction on illegal immigration, Allen said: "I think Republicans need to stand up for the rule of law. I think Republicans need to stand up for securing our borders. And I think Republicans - and all people - ought to look at history."

The Virginia GOP'er noted that in 1986, amnesty was provided to the 3 million illegals then in the country.

"Now we have approximately 11 million in the country illegally," he added. "Twenty years from now we're going to have 20 million.

"We need to do this right, do it properly and learn from history."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borders; coulditbepandering; georgeallen; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Clinton corrupts everything he touches look at GW since him and Clinton has gotten close his poll numbers have gone down down down
281 posted on 04/16/2006 6:23:26 PM PDT by unseen
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To: wagglebee

"It seems like a lot of people here disagree with us; however, none of them can offer a viable alternative."

McCain anyone? He's supposedly the frontrunner. Or Giluani. And Rice says she won't run. All the above are to the left of Allen.


282 posted on 04/16/2006 6:33:20 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: unseen

I don't think we knew about his pro-life caveats before we elected him in 2000.


283 posted on 04/16/2006 6:42:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Dr. Ed Bravo

Allen is pro life!


284 posted on 04/16/2006 7:16:25 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: sinkspur

"If Guliani or McCain decide to get into the race, they'll be hard to beat. They can lose some Republicans because they'll pick up a lot of moderates and even some Dems."

Last I checked, independants and Dems don't vote in Republican primaries. McInsane and Giulani are DOA.


285 posted on 04/16/2006 7:17:21 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Sonny M

I think the number is between 30 to 50 million illegals. The census in 2000 estimated 8 or 9 million....a very low estimate in my opinion. They are coming in at about 5 million a year....so we probably gotten 25 million since 2000

We don't even know how many millions have overstayed their visas.

There are probably 10 million in Texas and maybe more that that in California, alone.


286 posted on 04/16/2006 7:21:22 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: advance_copy
But I've got news for Republicans, there's never going to be another Ronald Reagan.

In a sad way, as far as Reagan's illegal immigration policies went - that would be a good thing.

Thanks for you post on Allen. I will be looking more closely at what he says in considering him for a presidential candidate. From now on (after campaigning and voting for Bush twice), I am going to be a lot more careful to only support candidates that support my major issues. Illegal immigration is #1 right now and I'm sick of having only wimps to chose from. I hope Allen (or someone else with the courage) is able to rally the party behind some real conservative values for a change.
287 posted on 04/16/2006 7:21:59 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: wagglebee

Sorry, there are 20 mil here already. in 20 years, it will be 40 million...


288 posted on 04/16/2006 7:24:32 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: EternalVigilance
He is in favor of a virtual border. *snort*


Show me a "virtual fence" and I'll show you a fence 1000 Mexicans a nite could run through.

Only a politicians aide could think up such a silly...surely poll tested.... wording.
289 posted on 04/16/2006 7:48:04 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: sinkspur

So far Allen has trampled any Democrat he has run against!


290 posted on 04/16/2006 7:50:33 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: EternalVigilance

Allen doesn't want to wait 5 or 6 years until the wall is built.

What we need to do is put the military on the damn border while building the wall or fence.


291 posted on 04/16/2006 7:55:54 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: sinkspur
McCain or Guliani, who, IMO, are the only two who would definitely beat any Democrat they ran against.

Rudy, yes. McCain, don't think so. McCain is media's creation and the same media can destroy him quite easily.

292 posted on 04/16/2006 8:03:11 PM PDT by A Longer Name
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To: TheLion
What we need to do is put the military on the damn border while building the wall or fence.

Agreed. But you can take it to the bank that George Allen doesn't.

293 posted on 04/16/2006 8:45:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes!")
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To: TheLion
I think the number is between 30 to 50 million illegals.

If thats accurate, that would mean that 1 in every 10 to 1 in every 6 people in this country is here illegally.

My guess is still over 20 million, but I wouldn't be surpirsed if its 30 million.

If its 50 million, then I would be stunned, since that means 1 in 6, and living in NYC, I would want to know where the hell they were hiding.

Give it a few years though, it will probably exceed 50 million.

294 posted on 04/16/2006 10:43:25 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

If the population is 350 million, then your percentages would be lower. There has been a discerned effort by the media to understate the problem for obvious reasons.

Should the Democrats gain control of the house and senate, then nothing else matters to the main stream media....they will have accomplished their mission.

The fate of the US is secondary.


295 posted on 04/16/2006 10:54:36 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: don-o
Define please. Attach action plan / cost. real one. You can dink around for 10 billion. A real plan will be a hundred billion a year. From now on.

And, they will still come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..............
Oh my well I guess we should just throw our hands up and give up..what BS 100 bil a year, where do you get that number?..American is built on "Can Do" nothing less - folks like you have been sucking at the tit of government way too long.
296 posted on 04/17/2006 3:28:11 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: sinkspur
I said I would vote for Keyes if he is the nominee.

I like Keyes too, unfortuneately he is about as electable as Lyndon LaRouche or Pat Paulsen.

297 posted on 04/17/2006 7:22:59 AM PDT by P8riot
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To: publius123

Frankly they can tax all money transfers back to Mexico at 75% for all I care. I want those funds plowed back into our economy, not theirs.


298 posted on 04/17/2006 4:18:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Illegal Immigration: What hope is there when OUR President is leading the insurrection?)
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To: buck61

Thanks. I agree.


299 posted on 04/17/2006 4:18:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Illegal Immigration: What hope is there when OUR President is leading the insurrection?)
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To: RobbyS
" he has to show a little fire in the belly. No one will ever call him overwrought."

Most of what he says about the Aliens is smoke but he needs to get his opponents to take a stand. Right now, not much concrete is being said. His Last election, SEN Allen talked big time about 2nd Amendment issues and right after the election he was on the front pages hand in hand with Brady, Sen Warner and other the "Assault Weapons" bill supporters.
300 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:57 PM PDT by Phosgood (Kerry was a Shill for Hillery)
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