Posted on 04/11/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
The fact that he personally didn't use the word 'minutemen' is irrelevant. But thanks for chiming in with a thoroughly pointless comment and the completely gratuitous jab anyway.
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You're welcome - since you admit the President did not use the word "Minutemen", there is at least some doubt as to whether he was referring to said group, or, as the question asked, those "hunting migrant people along the border" - I believe his spokesman made it clear the President was NOT referring to the Minutemen Project specifically. YMMV : )
Agreed, Jim - I guess you and I are simply "perpetuating the slave trade" though ; )
All Darwin Central devotees believe in a "creator"...Now that is a news flash!
I am surprised at your admission of the Creator, Vaquero...especially given some of your previous posts and associated graphics.
Let me ask...what evidence supports your belief in, and acceptance of, a creator?
"so what [creator] would that be????"
Given historical records and documentation, the Creator that is mentioned about five times in the Declaration of Independence, is the God of the Bible.
"would you leave that up to us to decide..."
The identity of the Creator in the Declaration of Independence has already been historically established/determined...Historical facts are not up for modern day decisions/determinations (except for in a liberal's revisionist history).
"or..............do you foist upon us YOUR views which you have determined the founders meant; ie the constitution freedom of religion only works for those who believe in YOUR concept of Christ (and no other belief in a creator be he/she Jew, Hindu or Rastafarian) and creationism."
Stating that the Creator of the Declaration of Independence is the God of the Bible does not foist upon anyone my views. It is simply an accurate historical statement, which does not violate anyone's constitutional freedoms.
Your above-mentioned reasoning is on par with that of the ACLU and Mr. Neudow(sp?)...and last time I checked, these folks were no friends of conservatism.
FYI:
The reasoning being used by the other poster smacks of the ACLU and anti-conservatism.
Do we have God-given rights, or not (it is on Jim Robinson's list and therefore discussable within the realm of conservatism, right)?
In discussing this issue previously on this site, many posters (not specifically the currently engaged poster) claimed that the founding documents, including the Constitution, were living, breathing documents.
If this mindset is acceptable within conservatism...conservatism is dead.
Just thought it wise for you to consider Jim's earlier sentiments. Totally up to you what you do with the info.
Thanks for your kind reply.
Can we please get rid of the porndogs? I don't like walking into a perfectly innocent thread & getting blasted with pornographic comments.
I agree completely. Especially since I sometimes read the threads from a government network.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
you can take the creator to mean whatever you want. I do not find the words of bronze age goat herders comforting (as to a final reward), nor do I consider what is written in the bible, either old or new to be necessarily the word of God. It may be, neither I or you know. Your happen to believe and faith is strong, so in that sense, you "KNOW" it is true.
I do believe most of what is written in the old and new testaments is good solid moral truths that need to be adhered to for the sake of society.
but please don't call me a liberal. I am not. and please do not connect me with the ACLU. I take that as slander.
People came to North America in that part of new world, which ultimately became the US, to escape religions persecution of the european despots. Seems to me your trying to revive that persecution.
SO I WROTE:
yes our creator.....
so what would that be????
would you leave that up to us to decide as we have freedom of (and from) Religion as part of our constitution guaranteed rights
And somehow you take that as meaning ALL DARWIN CENTRAL
That is an illogically structure argument. Where the heck did you get ALL from....sounds like you pulled that one from where the moon don't shine
and ps. Darwin Central is your derogatory term for those who believe, as the Catholics and Jew do, that it is not how our bodies evolved from lower forms that really matters, it is how our souls were created that defines humanity
I saw the press conference. The questioner included the Minutemen name in the question. Bush knew exactly what he was saying.
I saw. And comply I shall.
The questioner spoke Spanish - I thought you didn't?
Whew! That's a relief.
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