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To: Vaquero
"yes our creator....."

All Darwin Central devotees believe in a "creator"...Now that is a news flash!

I am surprised at your admission of the Creator, Vaquero...especially given some of your previous posts and associated graphics.

Let me ask...what evidence supports your belief in, and acceptance of, a creator?

"so what [creator] would that be????"

Given historical records and documentation, the Creator that is mentioned about five times in the Declaration of Independence, is the God of the Bible.

"would you leave that up to us to decide..."

The identity of the Creator in the Declaration of Independence has already been historically established/determined...Historical facts are not up for modern day decisions/determinations (except for in a liberal's revisionist history).

"or..............do you foist upon us YOUR views which you have determined the founders meant; ie the constitution freedom of religion only works for those who believe in YOUR concept of Christ (and no other belief in a creator be he/she Jew, Hindu or Rastafarian) and creationism."

Stating that the Creator of the Declaration of Independence is the God of the Bible does not foist upon anyone my views. It is simply an accurate historical statement, which does not violate anyone's constitutional freedoms.

Your above-mentioned reasoning is on par with that of the ACLU and Mr. Neudow(sp?)...and last time I checked, these folks were no friends of conservatism.

1,144 posted on 04/13/2006 9:01:16 AM PDT by pby
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To: pby

FYI:



Why don't you guys get lost

Which guys?

1,107 posted on 04/13/2006 1:19:49 AM MDT by WKB (Science Fiction= Any science that omits God.)



To: WKB
Those of you who are bickering over evolution on this thread.

1,108 posted on 04/13/2006 1:21:29 AM MDT by Jim Robinson


1,145 posted on 04/13/2006 9:46:03 AM PDT by Quix (Work, PRAY, stand up and be counted while it is still day. The looming night descends increasingly)
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To: pby

you can take the creator to mean whatever you want. I do not find the words of bronze age goat herders comforting (as to a final reward), nor do I consider what is written in the bible, either old or new to be necessarily the word of God. It may be, neither I or you know. Your happen to believe and faith is strong, so in that sense, you "KNOW" it is true.

I do believe most of what is written in the old and new testaments is good solid moral truths that need to be adhered to for the sake of society.

but please don't call me a liberal. I am not. and please do not connect me with the ACLU. I take that as slander.

People came to North America in that part of new world, which ultimately became the US, to escape religions persecution of the european despots. Seems to me your trying to revive that persecution.


1,152 posted on 04/13/2006 2:18:38 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: pby
All Darwin Central devotees believe in a "creator"...Now that is a news flash!

SO I WROTE:

yes our creator.....

so what would that be????

would you leave that up to us to decide as we have freedom of (and from) Religion as part of our constitution guaranteed rights

And somehow you take that as meaning ALL DARWIN CENTRAL

That is an illogically structure argument. Where the heck did you get ALL from....sounds like you pulled that one from where the moon don't shine

and ps. Darwin Central is your derogatory term for those who believe, as the Catholics and Jew do, that it is not how our bodies evolved from lower forms that really matters, it is how our souls were created that defines humanity

1,154 posted on 04/13/2006 2:31:15 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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