Posted on 04/07/2006 7:58:29 AM PDT by rob777
In the rush to get an immigration bill out of the Senate, the Bush administration appears willing to cave into the Democrats on the issue of amnesty.
The latest burst of bipartisan enthusiasm came when a strange marriage of Republican Sens. John McCain and Bill Frist joined with Democratic Sens. Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid in proclaiming that only those illegal aliens who are in the United States five years or more will be allowed to stay.
Suddenly, every "undocumented migrant" you ask will claim to have been in the United States five years or more. How is anyone going to prove different? In the thriving market in forged documents, we find in major cities such as Los Angeles and New York, any reasonably enterprising illegal alien should be able to get a Social Security number and produce a driving license for any name it takes to prove they have been in the United States five years or more.
We are witnessing remarkable statements from the likes of Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who said of the recent compromise, "While it admittedly is not perfect, the choice we have to make is whether it is better than no bill, and the choice is decisive." This sounds uncomfortably familiar.
What we are likely to get out of the compromise is new language promising to secure the border, but without building a fence. We're probably going to be sold that electronic sensors are just as good. So why don't we just build an electronic surveillance force? All this is nonsense. We already have good immigration laws on the books that we don't enforce. How long will it take to put the electronic surveillance force in place? How many illegal immigrants will the electronic fence actually prevent from getting into the United States anyway? Will we add enough Border Patrol agents to make sure the electronic fence is working?
Why won't the Senate and President Bush just come clean on what is really going on? Senate Republicans do not have enough votes for a tough enforcement law and the president is not going to push for tough enforcement. Besides, President Bush is basically in favor of amnesty, as long as we can find the right euphemism, such as "guest worker." Certainly, no Republican wants to be accused of offering a "guest illegal" program, even if that's what the "get out of jail free" card after five years here actually means.
Maybe no bill at all would be better. Why is President Bush so determined in his second term to commit political suicide? Conservative Republicans want "guest worker" amnesty and "electronic surveillance" fences no more than they wanted Harriet Miers to be on the Supreme Court.
Probably, what it will take to wake the White House up is the massive defeat in the 2006 congressional elections that is brewing right now. Maybe if enough Republican senators and congressmen bite the dust in November, Karl Rove will realize that courting future "illegal immigrant" voters to expand the Hispanic base of the Republican Party is probably a very costly strategy, especially if in the process the growing conservative majority turns hard against the president.
The immigration bill that is being hammered together will certainly be proclaimed as a "great solution," a "comprehensive bill." In the end, this new immigration bill is not really intended to stop illegal immigration. The bill is just intended to sound like we are going to stop illegal immigration.
In another few years, we will have not 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, as the administration claims we have now, but maybe 25 million. But, of course, in five years from now, all we have to do is wave the magic wand again, permitting Congress to declare once more that everybody is legal, as long as they have been here five years or more. Why don't we just do this every five years? That should make the problem go away altogether.
He came out of his NWO closet...
The Clintons are merely hired hands...
Mena,AR big picture window on the US politician's soul...
imo
So, what else is new? It's not like the republicans have a majority or anything.
rob777 you must realize that you and we fellow conservatives will be ostracized by the Bushie freepers for daring to post and comment on GW's abandonment of his base.
Of course, the DNC - MSM media blitz heralding the collapse of the Republican party and conservatism in general is in full swing. So I guess it's not too hard to tell who the weak-willed (weak-minded, more like it) are among us, huh?
"It didn't hurt Reagan's legacy. He is remembered for national security - as Bush will be."
1986 was a failure, everyone agrees. Why does Bush want to try the same failure all over again?
No, I am a proud capitolist unlike the anti-immigrants. Our economy needs a million or so immigrants a year to keep us going. It is basic demographics.
Whoa, time out. I am willing to give this some time. I think this is a war, not a battle. I was outraged yesterday when I read about that stupid compromise bill. But then I recalled that the Insane-Kennedy immigration bill was supposed to have gone to the floor but WITHOUT the possibility of amendment. Accordingly, Frist threatened to fillibuster it and it did not get the requisite votes for cloture. Along comes this compromise, BUT, last night I learned (by calling Frist's office) that unlike the Insane Kennedy bill this one can be amended.
This morning the Senate, led by the dems, tried to pass a rule preventing the compromise from being amended, but it failed. Voila, it dawned on me. Now the Conservatives have the cover they need to offer amendments to carve the crap out of this bill and the democrats are now placed in the position to have to kill this thing, making them the bad guys.
Of course, the MSM has spun, spun, spun this as being bad for Republicans, but if one digs, it is shocking and amazing to find out that the MSM is, actually, spinning.
NEVER!!!!
I'm a local elected Republican Precinct Commitee Officer, but I'd quit the party and join a Conservative Party in a heartbeat. We've lost out party from top to bottom. Even our county party is tone deaf to what the grassroots says. I probably shouldn't say we lost it, actually it was stolen by RINOS and Liberals. Once they get any power at all, they run like little dictators. On this matter of Illegals, looks like we've lost our country to an army of invading peasants and the government refuses to fire a shot.
Thanks, I'll stick with the US patriots.
I'd like to as well, but see precious few of them.
You don't need Civil War. Half the people eligible to vote bother to register. According to polls, 60 to 70 percent of Americans oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants. It is not a white vs color issue because whites represent about 70 percent of US population and they are not monolithic. It means a sizeable number of nonwhites also oppose amnesty. The polls also include nonregistered voters. If they all register and vote, idiots and globalists in the GOP and Dems Party would be swept away. There is one thing the liberals and globalist do not have, they personally all together do not have the votes. The MSM (owned by major globalist corporations) keeps harping about the waking Latino Giant, they forget the issue also woke up a bigger giant called the American people. FREEPERS stockpile food and essentials, I think the one day illegal immigrant strike is going to be more than a one day affair. Services and businesses will be disrupted. I think civil disorder and riots will happen in an attempt to increase pressure on the American people. These people (globalists, illegals) are so close to achieving a borderless country that they have nothing to lose. The left will take advantage of the situation by pointing out why are we in Iraq when we need the troops home to keep order. There are too many domestic parties who would benefit from exploiting violence.
Completely agree with the comment about the political landscape changing...but it will probably change in appearence only. Lot's of smoke ... very little fire.
As to a 3rd party...who?
On Monday when these immigrants tear up the towns and cities because they don't have what they want, I hope you will change your mind. We are the only country that imports our own illiteracy, poverty, diseases, terrorists, and socialists thru tolerance of illegal immigrants, thinking somehow this will help improve our profit margins. By the way, what do you propose to do with all these illegal immigrants, when the economy (which is cyclical) goes into recession???
Was there an amnesty of illegals before Reagan? Maybe it could be argued that he didn't know how it would turn out. Or that there was a Democrat majority back then. People this time probably expect the president to know better from previous experience.
A pretty pathetic performance by Majority Leader Frist...and he is going to run for President??
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