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Congress Unites for Illegal-Immigrant Deal
AP via Yahoo ^ | 4/6/06 | David Espo

Posted on 04/06/2006 6:39:22 PM PDT by advance_copy

WASHINGTON - Putting aside party differences, Senate Republicans and Democrats coalesced Thursday around compromise legislation that holds out the hope of citizenship to an estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States unlawfully.

"We can no longer afford to delay reform," said Republican Sens. John McCain and Edward M. Kennedy in a statement that capped weeks of struggle to find common ground. [TRANSLATION: Amnesty and a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal aliens]

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; congress; cowbell; fristbitesass; getajobhippy; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; justopentheborders; leanoveragain; leavenoillegalbehind; openborders; repubskissass; sellout; senaterinowimps; spineless; votethemout; whocares
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To: Modok

He has National security, taxes, partial birth abortion ban, giving the finger to the UN, patriot act, and soon to be ANWR drilling, amongst other things.


81 posted on 04/06/2006 7:24:06 PM PDT by pissant
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To: skip_intro

What about no childruun left behind. What liberal helped him with that one.


82 posted on 04/06/2006 7:24:42 PM PDT by Modok
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yep, thanks for the correction: 39

They simply must oppose this bill. Our nation depends on it.


83 posted on 04/06/2006 7:24:52 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: wardaddy

I'm done, too.


84 posted on 04/06/2006 7:25:19 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: pissant

Or you could hold out for the really long shot that Bush is a true conservative and vetos the bill. But the odds would not be very good on that one would they.


85 posted on 04/06/2006 7:26:26 PM PDT by Modok
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To: advance_copy
Watching C-Span right now, and Senator Frist says the bill is blocked. He said it is "tragic". No it is not.

Fantastic news, and we can probably thank Senator Sessions from Alabama for it, who is the Tancredo of the Senate.

86 posted on 04/06/2006 7:26:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: John Filson
All because they fear the word "deport" so much, and fear the Hispanic vote even more

The hispanic vote is what gets me.

What was the total hispanic vote in 2004? Around 6% of the total, split something like 60/40 Dems/GOP.

So to try to secure a larger piece of 6%, they're willing to throw 10% or more of the total vote they received from their base out the window.

Not very smart.

87 posted on 04/06/2006 7:27:33 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: rodeocowboy

Frist isn't necessarily the baddest guy here. He pushed for as many changes as he could get, leading to the martinez substitute which is much better than the judiciary committee bill.

Then he got 20 or so amendments lined up, with enough that would pass to further make the bill almost but not quite reasonable.

He then refused to name the judiciary committee as the conference, so I presume the conference will be opposed to the bill and will be supportive of the house. So we could get even closer to what we want. (and probably almost all the way to what I want, since I opposed the felony parts of the house bill and they are the most likely parts to be dropped in the compromise).

And since he's not getting his amendments, he'll still support blocking the vote, and he'll introduce his bill which has only the parts of the current bill that every republican supports. The dems will vote against it, and probably block cloture, but they'll have to explain why they are completely for a bill which seals the border and gives amnesty, but completely AGAINST a bill which simply seals the border, leaving the amnesty for another day.

The republicans will easily explain this as being that the democrats oppose blocking the borders, and only went along in order to get amnesty. So they aren't REALLY for our security, they see security as a bargaining chip to gain what they want.

It may be a very clever ploy. And given that Frist had so many defections that the democrats had a majority, it would be a pretty good deal if he could pull it off.


88 posted on 04/06/2006 7:27:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Modok

What about his no illegal left behind?


89 posted on 04/06/2006 7:27:56 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Sessions was amazing tonight. One man. One voice. In a room full of traitorous, evil poseurs he stood alone.


90 posted on 04/06/2006 7:28:00 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Modok

What about his no illegal left behind?


91 posted on 04/06/2006 7:28:29 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: skip_intro

Oh it's very smart. The numbers are there. Keep running them, and you'll see. The Republic is dying.


92 posted on 04/06/2006 7:28:45 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Filson

Everyone I know outside this forum is less conservative than me yet this is all folks talked about today and they are furious

much more so than with CFR or Harrietgate ....exponentially

hopefully we will awaken but we need coordination

the illegales have all of Spanish TV and radio to mobilize them

we need a day of national protest to the way Bush and the RINOS have handled this

tens of millions...a national strike ....something


93 posted on 04/06/2006 7:29:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (A DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY......THROW THE BASTARDS OUT...!!!!)
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To: pissant

How about his Supreme Court nominee good old Harriet and I think he just wants to make the UN more effective not get rid of it. How about good old fashioned spending tax money on domestic programs,he's really compasionate with our money there.


94 posted on 04/06/2006 7:30:08 PM PDT by Modok
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To: GarySpFc

He hasn't got that past the Senate yet so he can sign it. Maybe then Fox will give him his "stuff" back.


95 posted on 04/06/2006 7:31:28 PM PDT by Modok
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
If Frist and the GOP can kill the amnesty bill over the objections of the "Leave No Illegal Alien Behind" RINOs and their RAT allies, it is indeed good news.

But some damage has already been done. John McCain and his amnesty caucus have already caused an illegal immigration STAMPEDE tonight.
96 posted on 04/06/2006 7:31:41 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: pissant
I pray the President vetos this turd.

In this, G. Bush has let us all down. He would have signed Amnesty by name.

This amnesty bill will be approved. It's over. The illegals won. I feel sorry for that Somali or Bangladeshi guy who has waited for 7 years while he sees Miguel just come on over and then gets a "path to documentation."

And Miguel just laughs since he knew this was coming.

97 posted on 04/06/2006 7:32:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: advance_copy
Its a done deal. Its going pass the Senate. I wish conservatives would filibuster it to death but the votes are there for cloture. The worst thing about this so-called "compromise" is it provides only the PROMISE for a border wall and future enforcement. When even RINO Hugh Hewitt says this is a very bad bill, no kidding. This is hispandering taken to the max.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

98 posted on 04/06/2006 7:32:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: wardaddy

Voting, writing, discussing with people I know -- that's my style. I'm done with that now. I don't do protests. As long as men like Sessions can hold the floor of the Senate, there's still hope. But after that, there's powder. Dry powder.


99 posted on 04/06/2006 7:33:55 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: wardaddy

2006 will be of special interest to future historians studying the bloodless coup of the United States.


100 posted on 04/06/2006 7:34:35 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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