Posted on 04/03/2006 8:52:10 PM PDT by neverdem
An accelerating exodus of American-born blacks, coupled with slight declines in birthrates and a slowing influx of Caribbean and African immigrants, have produced a decline in New York City's black population for the first time since the draft riots during the Civil War, according to preliminary census estimates.
An analysis of the latest figures, which show the city with 30,000 fewer black residents in 2004 than in 2000, also revealed stark contrasts in the migration patterns of blacks and whites.
While white New Yorkers are still more likely than blacks to leave the city, they are also more likely to relocate to the nearby suburbs (which is where half the whites move) or elsewhere in the Northeast, or to scatter to other cities and retirement communities across the country. Moreover, New York remains a magnet for whites from most other states.
In contrast, 7 in 10 black people who are moving leave the region altogether. And, unlike black migrants from Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit, most of them go to the South, especially to Florida, the Carolinas and Georgia. The rest move to states like California, Ohio, Illinois and Michigan with large black populations.
Also, New York has a net loss of blacks to all but five states, and those net gains are minuscule.
"This suggests that the black movement out of New York City is much more of an evacuation than the movement for whites," said William Frey, a demographer for the Brookings Institution, who analyzed migration patterns for The New York Times.
The implications for a city of 8.2 million people could be profound. If the trend continues, not only will the black share of New York's population, which dipped below 25 percent in 2000, continue to decline, particularly if the overall population grows, but a higher proportion of...
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Real estate dipped slightly, then bounced back. There is a huge influx of cash from places like Ohio and Iowa. Basically, rich midwesterners and southerners setting their kids up in $700k "starter" condos. I must have met about two dozen of these kids in the last six months.
I like how the Times gets in a few insinuations about how this is the first time blacks are leaving since "mobs attacked blacks during the draft riots." Just another step in the Times' subliminal campaign to make post-Clinton times seem deadly to the poor little minorities.
A lot of them are retired city and federal workers. They've put in their 25 years in working. They can sell the house they bought for $80,000 for $350,000 or $500,000 and split for a state where living is cheaper. A pension and $500,000 in the bank at age 50 is pretty good.
Better to go to Connecticut or North Jersey if you have the bucks.
Don't forget the impossible traffic. I grew up there, too.
From this 2002 SeeBS article: Going Home to the South
Nassau has some tonier census tracts, then the grim picture you paint.
The only places in Nassau with any real class* IMHO are Manhasset, Oyster Bay, and Garden City. The rest are filled with stereotypical Lawn Guylanders.
(Honorable mentions to Malverne and Glen Cove, who although not as infested with the shell suit or Benetton brigade, are still not as tony as the places mentioned above, although they remain good places to live).
Finally, they get the picture.
My aunt lived in Manhasset. Hubby was not wealthy. Her two brothers who moved to California were much more successful, financially. The house was attractive, but quite modest (maybe 2000 square feet on a tight lot, but a nice pseudo English style brick job). The street however was beautiful, with mature trees, and upscale landscaping. This goes back to around the late 1960's.
Black Citizens Move!: Escape from New York. "Liberal Plantation" City No Longer Attractive to Black Middle Class.
Manhasset, my home town, has held up pretty well over the years. Some of the old estates still remain, which keeps some kind of balance between trees and houses. The prohibition against fast food places remains in place, thank goodness. That is just the kind of town it is. I could complain about overbuilding and such, but overall it remains imho the nicest place on the entire island, which has gone downhill in the last thirty years.
Manhasset was once a middle class enclave. There were even NYC cops living there at one time. Now is is pricey, largely due to the excellent schools.
Hey, getting my house from my parents in Nassau was my plan. Who stole it?
That's basically the only way to get one there. That, or strike it rich in the city.
LOL, my parents sold their house for a ton of money and proceeded to move to a place in Boca that has also appreciated in value considerably. Being that they will probably die in their Florida house, I'm not exactly looking forward to inheriting it. Here's hoping they live for a couple more decades.
Looks like we need to rechocolate New York.
Gee, does this mean that there might be a chance that the GOP could someday carry New York if this trend continues?
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