Posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:26 PM PDT by goldstategop
Here's a note to you bloggers--especially the suddenly blind conservative ones--who want Jill Carroll to be what she is not. Please read it VERY CAREFULLY and S-L-O-W-L-Y, as some of you seem to have premature articulation and reading comprehension problems (that includes National Review Online's Jim Geraghty a/k/a "Jimmy Carter Geraghty," so nicknamed for his apparent propensity to ignore truths about pro-Islamists when they are right in his face):
Over the last few months, since Jill Carroll was kidnapped and upon her release, I posted her REAL views They remain her views, and she has NOT denied or disavowed them. I never once cited a video that was made in captivity, as others did and as others are now claiming I owe an apology for. I do not. They owe me an apology for projecting the video onto my work. And for pretending to be able to read, when clearly they cannot.
The facts remain the same, as do the unfortunate, continuing plagues of blindness, deafness, and dumbness that have struck all of those who have some bizarre fantasy about their new unworthy heroine, a far-left "journalist," Jill Carroll.
Facts Are Stubborn Things: Jill Carroll's Extremist Friends, Views NOT Refuted
Jill Carroll was a close friend of the late Code Pinko Marla Ruzicka a/k/a "Treasonatrix Barbie." Ruzicka's group helped raise money for Islamic insurgents in Fallujah who burnt our contractors to a crisp. They also raised money for Palestinian terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank. You can tell a lot about a person by the company she keeps. And that was with whom Jill Carroll kept company.
Then, there's Jill Carroll's former employer, the anti-Semitic, anti-American Jordan Times (for whom she CHOSE to work), long ago made the following statement about her (which, to date, she has NEVER contradicted or disavowed):
The kidnappers who abducted her could not have chosen a more wrong target. True, Jill is a US citizen. But she is also more critical of US policies towards the Middle East than many Arabs. . . . Jill has been from day one opposed to the war, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
More than just being sympathetic with average Iraqis under war and occupation, Jill is a true believer in Arab causes.
From Arabic food to the Arabic language, Jill has always wanted to know and experience as much as possible about Arab identity, and she is keen on absorbing it, learning, understanding and respecting it.
She doesn't just "like" Arab culture, she loves it. . . . It is simply unconscionable for any Arab to want to harm a person like her.
Again, neither of these things has anything to do with the video Jill Carroll made. Nada. Zippo. And yet, Jill Carroll has not provided any evidence to the contrary. Because there is none. Facts are stubborn things.
It's a shame I've had to post this THREE times, and yet it still doesn't sink in for quite a few of you. It's not rocket science, people.
Then, there are the radical U.S.-based Islamist groups I wrote about, which spent a ton of time, effort, and resources to get Jill Carroll released. They are groups like LIFE for Relief and Development (which gave millions to HAMAS and is believed to be funding Iraqi insurgents), HAMAS-front group CAIR, and the rabidly anti-Semitic, pro-HAMAS/Hezbollah Congress of Arab American Organizations and American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee.
These groups were nowhere to be seen for the following U.S. hostages, some of whom have since been murdered, but some of whom remain alive: Tom Fox, Ronald Schulz, Jack Hensley, Eugene (Jack) Armstrong, Nicholas Berg, Jeffrey Ake, Sadeq Mohammed Sadeq, Aban Elias, and Keith Maupin.
Not a peep out of the American Islamist groups for them, even the two Arab-American ones (Sadeq and Elias).
So ask yourself--ye blind worshippers of Jill Carroll--why did these rabidly Islamist groups in the U.S. go out on a limb for Jill Carroll, and no-one else? So, Jimmy Carter Geraghty and others, I'm waiting for your answer. But I know one will never be forthcoming. (As for Jim, his e-mail address indicates he's in Turkey, so perhaps he, too, like Jill Carroll is writing "in captivity," or perhaps he's seen "Kurtlar Vadisi - Irak" one too many times.)
To sum up, I never cited the video, but I did cite these 3 heretofore unrebutted facts (her recanting of the video notwithstanding):
1) Jill Carroll worked, by her choice, for an Islamist newspaper that said she shares its anti-American, anti-Israel views (no reason to doubt that, she worked for them by her choice);
2) Jill Carroll was close friends with an American who worked for Code Pink (funding and helping terrorists);
3) Jill Carroll was unique among ALL American hostages in Iraq in getting the mammoth effort by U.S. Islamist groups (all of whom support terrorists and oppose the war in Iraq) to secure her release. They know what she stands for.
And it should be obvious to you, too.
As for any calls for an apology, the apology is owed to ME by all the premature articulators out there who didn't read closely and falsely claimed I cited the video. I did not.
Jill Carroll's views and Islamist, terror-supporting friends in the U.S. remain the same. Time for all of you to get LASIK so you finally see it.
mkjessup: because as has been amply pointed out, she was (and IS) ONE OF THEM!
OK, you guys, put up or shut up!
She was a reporter for the Christian Science Monitor? and according to Debbie Schlussel this bloggist, the Jordan Times?
Post some of her articles that prove your point!
If you can do that I will gladly restate my position. I have no dog in this fight. I only think there's been a whole lot of cruel hatred toward a young woman based on innuendo and circumstance.
So far, I repeat SO FAR, all so-called evidence against her has been weak circumstantial, guilt by association argumentation by zealous patriots.
A side question:
Why didn't you all get so furious at those peace missionaries that were actually rescued by our troops and then had no good word to say about the USA or even a "thank you" for their rescue?
So far since her release, Jill has said the right things. Wait for her to say something wrong and THEN condemn her? Why so eager to be right in the wrong way?
Lonesome in Massachusetts: As for the UMASS stigma, it's the same thing! Painting all UMASS grads with the same broad brush is NOT PROOF! I happen to have conservative friends who have gone there because of financial reasons. Shame on everyone for thinking stereotype stupid. That's all I can say. I'm very disappointed...and from Massachusetts.
Sorry, but until some real proof appears you are operating apart from your rational abilities.
...I believe Deb needs to keep these quotes and Jill's associations in the forefront, so folks won't be believin' the new distortions.
And Hildy, for mercy sakes....You sure can turn folks words/reactions/thoughts every which way but sideways.
For a person to say Carroll is disingenuous does not mean that person is saying Carroll should have had her head lopped off.
Give a break, will ya.
syriacus: He mostly "hung around" with people interested in conversion away from the "dark side."
Was Carroll trying to help the jihadists see the error of their ways?
What was Jill Carroll's job? a reporter, right?
SHOW ME HER WRITINGS!
she took her job seriously enough to learn their language?
All that indicates to me is that she was serious about her mission. It isn't evil on its own. Innuendo and circumstance prove NOTHING.
Condemnation of her so far has been in the eye of the beholder (just as it was for Jesus).
curiouser and curiouser.
Thank you for posting this again. People need to know the real person and not what the media is trying to "invent"!
Comparing her to Jesus is in the eye of the beholder.
I forgot to tell you that I spent 30 years as a pacifist.
The anti-war, anti-US crowd needs a new face, so Jill will come in handy. Cindy Sheehan's is too hard to love. She makes people avert their eyes when they see her on TV or in the paper.
Jill Carroll is not going to accept your invitation for drinks, dinner and dancing, regardless of your vociferous defense of her.
Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas. Debbie Schlussel has provided more than sufficient evidence to demonstrate the fact that Carroll ought to be itching up a storm.
If it walks and talks like an Islamoapologist, it IS an Islamoapologist, and you are advised to stick your head back in the sand.
That's a slander. You left off the words "in my opinion."
Carroll's statements since being in safe US hands have rebuked you, but hey -- a head full of blind dumb idiocy and meaness has non-functioning ears. As we all know.
You have difficulty following a train of thought.
Restating your position again? Hoping maybe it'll hold water this time?
Nope.
Produce proof via her writings or personal statements made by her while not under duress.
Then I will gladly hold something similar to your point of view. I'll never be filled with the hatred for her that some of you are.
I'm doing fine, thank you.
You can be proud of the very competent job that you and the MSM are doing of presenting Carroll's "side." And I'm sure that the Islamicists are proud of the competent job they are doing of presenting their side of her story.
A few comments from us can't change the truth, if we are wrong.
No one is convicting Carroll in court. Think of us as a group of doctors, trying to get a diagnosis for a patient.
A doctor makes a diagnosis that a particular disease is present by considering symptoms and applying logic. That doctor doesn't necessarily wait for proof, before making a (tentative?) decision.
The doctor is willing to alter the diagnosis if contradictory evidence appears, but a doctor doesn't hold off acting "as if" an apparent disease is present.
Doctors don't sit on their hands while germs get a foothold. Why should we sit on our hands while the anti-War folks put their spin on Carroll's experience?
By the way.. what really happened to CARE International's Margaret Hassan? Why was she "kidnapped," but not released? Most of the women who have been taken hostage have been released. Did Hassan have "dirt" on someone involved in the oil-for-food scandal? Was the "kidnapping" staged to hide something?
Hassan, 59, who had British, Irish and Iraqi nationality, was abducted by insurgents in west Baghdad in October 2004, as she was being driven to work as head of the Iraq branch of the charity Care International. A video purporting to show her execution was broadcast on Arab television a month later. Her body has never been found.
Would Jesus have said such a thing to a fellow poster?
"Filled with hatred"?
Judge not, that you not be judged.
First to remind everyone that he'd been a POW. Surprise, who knew?
Then to excuse what she did while a prisoner. Well we know by his own admission that McC gave ship positions in exchange for medical treatment of his injuries when he was first captured.
"Our daughter Jill Carroll is on your side
Please release her and kidnap one of
the American troops in Iraq instead..."
-- (paraphrased)
YES, SIR!!!!!
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