My comments on the old thread at the time were:
As someone the census bureau would classify as Hispanic. I think that I can speak with confidence that there are those of us who came here to be Americans and adopt American values. We abandoned our former countries because they were failures culturally, economically and politically. Unfortunately there are others who are here not as "immigrants" but as "colonists". They want to bring their failed culture and failed ideas to America and impose them here. Unfortunately there are panderers on both the left and the right that will play into those sentiments and help accelerate the Balkanization of America.
You can find the old thread with the complete article and it's interesting comments HERE.
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A Freeper posted this a couple of weeks ago and I believe it is apropos today. Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. "
Theodore Roosevelt, 1907 |
PING to me for later read. Thanks for posting this.
BTTT
I would defend the Cubans and South Americans and Nicaraguans who fled the Sandies.
They vote right mostly (unlike most other Hispanics) and once outside Miami, they do tend to assimilate.
In Miami, they simply don't have to.
PS....I fear Brasilians may vote left too...and I have children that carry that passport too...as I once did.
Bttt! Excellent article, and great comments.
I still have the same gripe as I did when you first posted this. I agree with most of what Huntington says, but I dislike the words Hispanic and Latino because I'm never sure just who the author (not just Huntington) is talking about.
The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages.
The majority, though not all, of Hispanic immigrants may speak Spanish, but that does not mean that they share the same culture.
Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own political and linguistic enclaves...
Who has the definitive list of the Hispanics who are also considered to be Latinos? And would it take the FOIA to get a copy of it? :^)
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I don't mind the immigration. it is the failure to assimilate that needs to be cured. No more Spanish in schools. We didn't have Italian in schools when my parents legally came here and worked shit jobs. We learned to speak English and now we are fiercely loyal Americans.
I never thought of Bush as deliberately balkanizing America but rather through a misguided belief he fails to see the consequences of his policies.
We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture. Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende. For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico. George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000. |
Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:
In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster
We, who know the facts about illegal immigration MUST keep pushing for a SOLUTION.
If you agree, push the following:
First, employer sanctions in big numbers.
Second and at the same time, Secure the borders.
Third,an immigration policy that balances the need of America with the needs of potential immigrants.
Fourth, fix the economies of the broken countries, especially Mexico.
Ask yourself and your politicians, why it is that the huge populations of the Mexican cities on the border are not jumping the wire to get here. Is it because it is not as bad over there as the MSM and the pandering politicains would like to have us believe?
Who's coming? Is it the single male who is in the vast manority?
Do we want this all over America? Check out the link to the Pima County jail and see if the proportion of Hispanic surnames to other surnames is equivalent to the proportion of Hispanics in Tucson, 24%.
http://www.pimasheriff.org/inmate/roster.html
You are right. Hispanity is best left south of the border.
I wouldn't mind amnesty so much IF there was a clause that said they MUST repay the two or three trillion dollar debt incurred by American citizens for their welfare.
Posted by JeffHead Jeff links to Mexica.org's 'after protest' pic fest. You can see there what the marchers thought they were marching for.
A poster for Friday's march. March 31. This poster lists the Latino orgs that are promoting the protests. They are all communist/socialist front orgs.
Here is my analysis of what is going on behind the scenes.
Here is some evidence that 'amnesty' increases illegal entries. These people knew before the demonstrations that the time was ripe.
Smith Act of 1940 This is the U.S. statute that ought to apply to the organized gathering of tens of thousands of foreign nationals calling for the overthrow of our country.
H.R. 4437 At this link you will find a good exegesis of the only bill that doesn't offer some type of amnesty/pathway to citizenship/excuses for illegal entry. It is harsh on employers but has reasonable protections for employers who verify documents that are later shown to be false. It explains that the databases necessary are already in place. It provides for border security.
Understand that the provision that the protesters say is 'racist,' that makes illegals felons, was inserted by the Dems a short time ago. That clarifies why Hillary happened to discover the immigration issue a week before the marches. Why she demonized Republicans as "making Jesus a criminal."
Keep in mind just who organized these protests. Who provided the tens of thousands of T-shirts, the thousands of professionally made signs, the hours and hours of promotion on Spanish language radio and TV stations. It has been noticed that Islamic orgs names and logos appear on some of these signs as well. Remember that NEA teachers and adminstrators are the ones who have assisted the march organizers by providing bussing for their students, hoisting Mexican flags at school and overlooking the truancy.
Don't forget that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Think about how our Congress is looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legilation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections.
Hi Cacique!
Just when I thought we had only one MECCA to worry about--- now we've got two!
This is the 1st I've heard of La Ratza & MECHa. Where have I been?