[Flavius]

[jimtorr]

So this is what they meant by a radar evading missile.

[FreedomNeocon]

Just a few days after their 'earthquake' eh?

[Brilliant]

Peaceful missile tests, no doubt.

[Flavius]

just in, photo of the famous missle

[patton]

The Russians are starting to piss me off.

Iran delinda est.

[Flavius]

just in, photo of the famous missle

[ScaniaBoy]

Do we really think the Iranians have developed a Skval torpedo or that the Russians have sold them one of their most modern weapon systems?

Sounds very unlikley to me, but we'll see if this will be confirmed.

[jpsb]

"The Iranian Russian-made missile has a speed of 223 mph underwater "

Thank you Russia, can't wait for Iran to give the Checnens a nuke or too.

[SmithL]

High-speed underwater missile ping

[Cindy]

RELATED LINK:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607847/posts

[sully777]

[SandRat]

Yaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn! The Soviet Union made such claims just before it's demise of an underwater torpedo capable of those speeds. Sounds like stolen or "bought" Old Soviet technology. And the hand wringers think that there hasn't been a counter measure because the MSM hasn't been told about it. Remember the surprise everyone got when we found out that the F-114 Stealth fighter not only was a reality but had been operational for 10 years?

[hershey]

This qualifies for preemptive action since Iran is incapable of possessing weapons of this nature and worse without launching them at anyone who looks at them cross-eyed. Extortion's fun at first, but the thrill soon palls, and they'll take out a US aircraft carrier and Israel...just for the heck of it. We can't let that happen.

[fso301]

solid-rocket propelled "torpedo" achieves high speeds by producing a high-pressure stream of bubbles from its nose and skin, which coats the torpedo in a thin layer of gas and forms a local "envelope" of supercavitating bubbles. Carrying a tactical nuclear warhead initiated by a timer, it would destroy the hostile submarine and the torpedo it fired. The Shkval high-speed underwater missile is guided by an auto-pilot rather than by a homing head as on most torpedoes.

There are no evident countermeasures to such a weapon

When in supervcavitation, the Shkval is guided not too differently from WWI era torpedoes plus, it makes one hell of a noise. Conventional anti-torpedo torpedoes could and probably have been modified to proceed to a point where an improved Shkval is expected to slow down from supercavitation in order to "take a look around" That's where they should be able to get it.

Another possibility is to draw on the WWII era Hedgehogs. A lot of bomblets, fired into the Shkvals path may do the trick.

In the meantime, ASW teams should have a pretty good idea where to look for the enemy sub.

[Eaker]

Ping!

[Eaker]

Ping!

[Robert A Cook PE]

They talk about this kind of missile - almost certainly a specific dupe of the old Soviet technology - as if it were to be only used against subs ....

But Iran can't track our subs,

But Iran doesn't need to track our subs (since they aren't logically going to be wedged into the little confined spaces and shallow water and INCREDIBLY complex sonar traffic of the straits and bays near Iran,

But Iran doesn't NEED to track (or attack) or subs, since Iran has no targets that our subs NEED to track.

And Iran (or the Soviet Union) cannot easily target subs with these high speed missiles since there is no way to provide terminal guidance and mid-course guidance against a maneuvering sub.

BUT ...

All of those are perfectly valid reasons to attack the many US SURFACE ships crossing the Strait and laying off of her waters easily found and tracked by surface binoculars and radars, so THOSE ships can be tracked, targeted, and attacked by high-speed underwater rockets.

Sure, torpedoes haven't been shot at surface ships recently, but every terminal defense and anti-missile defense now carried is USELESS against high-speed torpedoes.

[Smokin' Joe]

bttt

[ExSoldier]

FOX is currently running video of such a test. Not sure if the video is Russian or not but the subheadings or crawl are clearly of a middle eastern origin. Gives this a little more credibility.