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Jill Carroll: I was forced to say things on video

Posted on 04/01/2006 1:02:53 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

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To: holyscroller
You are reading rumors. She was brought to Deutschland in a US military jet ~ in the cockpit the whole way.

The military, quite cleverly, has not yet briefed you on what secrets she might have told them.

Just be patient. You'll get your turn.

141 posted on 04/01/2006 3:01:43 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah; Skylab

Sorry guys. I only watch Fox News, so I must have missed the truth on CNN.


142 posted on 04/01/2006 3:17:10 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: muawiyah

I am very glad to hear that. What a contrast in "official statements."

So did the actual hostages praise their military rescuers? If so, I owe them an apology.

Just as reference, I have been here supporting Jill until she was on safe ground for exactly the reasons you state.


143 posted on 04/01/2006 3:38:44 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: holyscroller

"Why did she refuse to debrief with the U.S. Military? She could have given them some valuable info, but she deliberately chose not to."

Actually, I think that she did talk to the military. Here is that part of her statement.
"At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times," she said. "Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: That I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military and that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither is true."


144 posted on 04/01/2006 3:39:09 PM PST by Mila
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To: muawiyah

OK. I, for one, would have taken my hat off. You undercut your argument by comparing it to disrobing.


145 posted on 04/01/2006 3:39:41 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: muawiyah
Ever hear of a 3rd degree episiotomy?

I've fixed em. Even a 4th degree.

And an absolute non sequitor. What the hell does an episiotomy have to do with whether a woman covers her head? Although in the Muslims case a fairer question would be have the woman's genitals been mutilated?
146 posted on 04/01/2006 3:44:08 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be aired on television, and broke their word.

I don't quite understand how this mattered in terms of what she said in the interview.

147 posted on 04/01/2006 3:51:30 PM PST by KittyKares
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To: Kozak

Poor girls been through quite an ordeal
She said things she was made to say, not her own words.
I'd cut her some slack


148 posted on 04/01/2006 3:57:04 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: muawiyah

I'd been there, done that! Not that extreme but my family lived in Saudi, no life for a women.


149 posted on 04/01/2006 3:59:00 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: Kozak

150 posted on 04/01/2006 4:17:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Armigerous
at the Air Force Academy they tought us in POW training to say such if it meant the difference between life and death...I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt for the moment...

??? When did the US armed forces start taking *that* approach? That's completely the *opposite* of what I was taught in SERE in 1973, and afterwards by the Army.

Has the armed forces stopped using The US Fighting Man's Code?

the infowarrior

151 posted on 04/01/2006 5:00:19 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: Kozak
Not whether she covers her head, but why she might well choose large, flowing robes to hiphuggers.

Don't you guys in medicine take history courses anymore? YOu ought to know this stuff second nature.

152 posted on 04/01/2006 5:19:41 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: txroadhawg

There are women who are able to deal with Saudi ~ most aren't. One I know grew up Moslem in the Philippines. She thought it was great that Riyadh was such a modern city, and even society, in general, was much more progressive than in her hometown. Another is a nurse.


153 posted on 04/01/2006 5:21:36 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: infowarrior
Telling lies to the enemy has always been allowed. Since the Nam they've changed their standards on participation in propaganda for/with the enemy.

Since everybody in the world knows that almost everybody can be coerced into saying anything, no one believes propaganda films.

Let me amend that ~ we have some Freepers who believe propaganda films and the New York Times and CBS. I don't.

154 posted on 04/01/2006 5:24:48 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: infowarrior

....can't speak for the other services but USAFA adapted this policy in the late 60's after it was learned that
some captive pilots were being executed in North Viet Nam as a result of saying nothing...it was understood that any statements made under duress under such circumstances were invalid and disavowable


155 posted on 04/01/2006 5:30:25 PM PST by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

This tramp is in line for the Lead Head of the month award.


156 posted on 04/01/2006 5:49:30 PM PST by hgro
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To: Armigerous
....can't speak for the other services but USAFA adapted this policy in the late 60's after it was learned that some captive pilots were being executed in North Viet Nam as a result of saying nothing...it was understood that any statements made under duress under such circumstances were invalid and disavowable

Interesting... As I said, *my* experiences were totally different. In SERE in the early 70's (1973, to be exact), the Army had a policy which was The US Fighting Man's Code, adopted just post Korean War, which emphasized not even giving the *appearance* of cooperating with the enemy. I, of course, don't hold civilians to the standard set forth in the Code, so it doesn't apply to Ms Carroll at all, but your statement defintely caught my eye...

the infowarrior

157 posted on 04/01/2006 6:01:56 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: DB

She had no business being there. I'll second it. It is a war zone. The soldiers belong there. Were there women running around German/ Guadalcanal? reporting on the fighting? NO. Because ... it was dangerous. Also, if they are just observing, they do not truly understand, I think.


158 posted on 04/01/2006 6:08:07 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: OldFriend

It IS easy from our safety over here. However, we still get to have opinions. And we still have to think what we might have done in that situation. Else only those first-person players in any given situation get an opinion? Dream on.


159 posted on 04/01/2006 6:10:15 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: txroadhawg
Poor girls been through quite an ordeal She said things she was made to say, not her own words. I'd cut her some slack

? I did. Several times. No beef with her.
160 posted on 04/02/2006 6:15:44 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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