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High School Kid Who Burned Mexican Flag Arrested And Charged With Arson
FreeRepublic ^ | 3/31/06 | kstewskis

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:52:07 PM PST by lowbridge

Just got home from work, and was listening to Joe Crummy on KFYI interview one of the dads of the kids that burned the Mexican flag:

Apparently, his kid was arrested by AJ Police and was held in detention in Florence all day yesterday. CHarged with Arson. It took all of their savings to get a retainer for an atty.

It gets better. The family is now getting death threats. They were informed by police that there are those trying to find out where the family lives, and are going after them. AJ police stated to the father, there is nothing they can do about it, until someone actually shows up on their property.

Also, there was another kid from the school (Rod, who said he was a "future" Marine) read that letter from the school, forbiding any kid to wear any article of clothing resembling or representing a flag, no matter what country it represents.

He said emphatically, that he *will* wear the US Flag to school Monday.

Apparently this flag burning was near the ROTC table.

My respect for the kids in AJ have grown a hundred fold!

366 posted on 03/31/2006 5:52:20 PM PST by kstewskis

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1606660/posts?page=366#366


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To: lowbridge

I'm thinking they would take the case of a Mexican that would take umbrage at the burning of "his" flag...

That is part of the problem the Border guard has been having...

The ACLU has been down there giving them fits...because of the way they "treat" the poor illegals.


101 posted on 03/31/2006 9:33:33 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Mr. Mojo; wardaddy

FREE TRAVIS! FREE TRAVIS!


102 posted on 03/31/2006 9:33:59 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: MaineVoter2002

death threats...sounds like a page outta the muslamofascist
playbook...

no wonder our leaders are so fond of them....


over us....


103 posted on 03/31/2006 9:34:05 PM PST by joesnuffy (Guest Worker Program Is To Border Security As Campaign Finance Reform Is To Free Speech)
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To: SAJ
Er, should read ''criminal'', not 'crimal''.

My apologies for the typo.

104 posted on 03/31/2006 9:34:33 PM PST by SAJ
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To: hispanarepublicana

I see a very logical case here for the boy.

I've never wished I was a lawyer before!


105 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:05 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: sonsofliberty2000

What about trespass for the flag owners who put their flag on someone else's pole?


106 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:14 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

There are degrees of arson, and spending the day in jail is asinine. Especially, spending it in Florence, 30 miles away from his home and school.

Somebody is being really stupid over this. I did something far worse than what this kid did as a HS student, and didn't spend a minute in jail.

Of course, 40 years does make a bit of a difference...


107 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:26 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: DB
In California, arson is defined in Title 13, Chapter 1, section 451:
"A person is guilty of arson when he or she willfully and maliciously sets fire to or burns or causes to be burned or who aids, counsels, or procures the burning of, any structure, forest land, or property..."
(d)Arson of property is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, two, or three years.

His lawyer will have to argue "willful and malicious", unless he has some other defense

108 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:26 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside

The good news is this sh-t would not happen at my private high school. The good news about such institutions is that you can "control" who can come in and stay in. Public schools have to take everybody.


109 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:32 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: SAJ

CA doesn't have the property's value as part of its statute.


110 posted on 03/31/2006 9:35:58 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: SAJ

My original understanding (early on this thread) was that they destroyed their own flag. In this case I wonder who asked for the charges to be filed. The school or the flag's owner?


111 posted on 03/31/2006 9:36:11 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Hmm, makes sense then, and thanks for the heads up. Sadly I may have to agree with the charges then since it was not his flag. Can't disagree with the sentiment though, but the law is the law.

Hmm makes more sense to me that flying a foreign flag over a Public Building, in the USA, would be a Federal Crime. Protecting the USA should earn a comedation from any real patriotic organization. Temporary insanity due to rage should certainly be forgivable as any good American would be likely outraged and act accordingly.

112 posted on 03/31/2006 9:36:26 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition...)
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To: lowbridge

BTTT


113 posted on 03/31/2006 9:36:54 PM PST by hattend (Let's unpimp the Democrat Party!)
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To: SAJ

It's pretty obvious that there is an element of (poor?) judgement at work in this case, rather than a sterile application of the law.


114 posted on 03/31/2006 9:36:58 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

"Hmm, makes sense then, and thanks for the heads up. Sadly I may have to agree with the charges then since it was not his flag."

The fellow who owned the flag ran it up a flagpole that wasn't his. Twice. It's not like it was torn out of his hands. It was removed from the flagpole and burned.

One could argue it was abandoned.

Courts have ruled for example that taking someone elses trash, even from their can at the street, isn't stealing.


115 posted on 03/31/2006 9:37:21 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: wardaddy

There are two things I use besides toilet paper for rump ribbon, that is a Koran and a Mexican Flag.


116 posted on 03/31/2006 9:38:34 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: sonsofliberty2000

If it was the other way around those idiot Mexican students wouldn't have got arrested. I would be surprised if they did though. Of course, they would cry racism if that happened.


117 posted on 03/31/2006 9:38:53 PM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: sonsofliberty2000

It wasn't his flag to burn, I would guess.


118 posted on 03/31/2006 9:39:15 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Manifest Destiny, Chapter 2: Move our southern border further south.)
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To: HiJinx

"It's pretty obvious that there is an element of (poor?) judgement at work in this case, rather than a sterile application of the law."

I wonder if the school district even has legal standing to press arson charges, considering that they didn't own the property that was burned.

Also, I don't know of any cases where the laws have been applied for flag burning.


119 posted on 03/31/2006 9:39:21 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: glowworm

Not sure of the laws there, but the law is the law. Liberals would take such a break and run with it, saying they allowed illegals over due to the temporary insanity at the thought of their horrid lives, or such. And I'd agree with them, because they are right about life in Mexico. Laws are in place to stop and keep in line those who would allow there emotions to run and lose there reason. I initially thought this was a case of a student burning his own flag, but that is not the case. Is it wrong to fly the Mexican flag over the US flag? Yes, very and that student needs punished too. Trespassing, and so forth.


120 posted on 03/31/2006 9:41:17 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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