Boehner hints a back down on 'amnesty'

The Washington Times ^ | March 29, 2006 | Charles hurt

[surely_you_jest]

House Majority Leader John A. Boehner refused yesterday to rule out compromising with the Senate to expand the House border security bill to include a guest-worker program or provisions that opponents call "amnesty." "Let's wait and see what the Senate can produce," he told reporters yesterday when asked whether House Republicans would reject the Senate Judiciary Committee's proposal to allow the estimated 12 million illegal aliens now in the U.S. to seek citizenship after paying a fine.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Sure thing.

[freedom1st]

I think the fix is in. "The Hammer" Tom Delay would never agree to amnesty.

[claudiustg]

---This will be the straw that breaks our backs here in our family.---

I was with Bush right up to this point. Handing over a bag of goodies to these illegals is totally unacceptable.

[American Quilter]

Did you forget your sarcasm tag? We have already rewarded the 12 million illegal aliens on our soil by allowing them to come here and remain here. Amnesty is a fait accompli for those reasons. It's wishful thinking to think otherwise.

No, I was serious (and thank you for not flaming me!). I agree that our government has been extremely remiss in allowing the 12 million in, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to start deporting some of them now. We can't deport all of them, but deporting even some would send a message to the others, as well as to those considering coming here illegally.

[Liberator]

"Tell me again, what is the subject of this thread?

It was either about reforming immigration legislation or throwing the dirty spics out. there seem to have been two distinct and separate streams."

Another diner of paint-chips on this thread??

Please check you race-card in at the door, jihad (???)

Any relation to former Freeper "cultural jihad"??

[commish]

I am actually hoping those quoting the polls and such are correct, but I fear that anything other than just killing the whole thing or some type of a compromise is going to seriously hurt the Rep party.

My personal gut feeling is secure the borders, kick em all out, and let em come back through proper channels; but I do not know if we can accomplish that without losing bigtime.

My biggest fear is that if we push for the house bill that the protests will get bigger and turn violent; and the MSM will make sure to blame anything horrible that happens on the administration and Republicans. That is why I say it is a LOSE/LOSE

[Junior_G]

I should have used the correct FR term, which is, I believe, "beaner."

So the point you are trying to make with this statement is that FR is a racist website? Is that why you signed up here a few days ago?

[Junior_G]

That is simply unbelievable....., so I don't believe it.

Your opinion of FR seems to be based on hearsay. This isn't the hotbed of race-hate that your buddies told you it was, though the race card does get pulled out with a fair amount of frequency as of late.

[American Quilter]

The facts you're providing are very encouraging. In the last couple of days I'd begun to think nothing had or would ever be done to staunch the flood of illegals, but this thread (outside of all the screaming and insults) has given me a better understanding of the issue.

[ohioWfan]

Thank you for the facts, Southack.

I'm in the 'not enough' camp, but I am revolted by those who shriek that nothing has been done, when that is an outright lie.

If our dialogue on this issue is to be productive, the liars have to shut up and go away.

[stands2reason]

Apparently you are a xenophobe if you don't want to live in Mexico. If I wanted to live in Mexico, I'd move there.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

The only option left on the table is for you to apologize to all of the people on this thread who you have denigrated and insulted so gratuitously.

[samcgwire]

How many were legislated before they weren't funded by Bush, and then under pressure, 1,700 got funded as if throwing a small bone out to those of us that are beyond fed up?

Hint: I know that answer too.

[longtermmemmory]

Any convertable visa program which includes citizenship is PURE AMNESTY.

Guest worker is just and only that GUEST. Guests go home to their country of origin.

This is about the US taxpayer providing money to these illegals as a foreign aid program.

[neutrino]

Either the fix is in,

Yes, the fix is in. We are betrayed again. Imagine my surprise. NOT.

[Darkwolf377]

As I said to someone else that replied in a similar vain, save your breath for our leadership. Your time would be better spent trying to persuade them to uphold the law than persuading all of us to suck up.

Nice dodge.

So on your planet, when you throw the Republicans out, who will replace them?

Here on Earth, the Republicans won't be replaced by anyone who's stronger on immigration, but would love to hear how things are going on your world.

[Southack]

"I'm in the 'not enough' camp, but I am revolted by those who shriek that nothing has been done, when that is an outright lie. If our dialogue on this issue is to be productive, the liars have to shut up and go away."

The liars fall into 3 camps.

1. People who are repeating what they've heard without actually doing any research of their own.
2. People who think that this immigration issue isn't getting enough attention (the lies and exagerations are their versions of shouting at people passing by on the street corner).
3. Professional disruptors (e.g. various 3rd parties left and right, Democrats, avowed leftists, Moby trolls, DK and DU misfits, etc.).

The 3rd group tends to claim that President Bush is somehow the "enemy" of the Right, as if he is out to get us, throw us into gulags, etc.

The other 2 groups just need to be reasoned with.