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1 posted on 03/28/2006 5:52:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Water vapour levels are even less within our control than CO2 levels.

Obviously, tackling this problem will cost even more than we thought [/sarcasm]

2 posted on 03/28/2006 5:55:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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We must eradicate all water from the planet immediately or we will all fry!


3 posted on 03/28/2006 5:56:10 AM PST by Wil H
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Dihydrogen Monoxide causes global warming!? OMG! Run for the hills!
5 posted on 03/28/2006 5:56:30 AM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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"According to Shaidurov, only small changes in the atmospheric levels of water, in the form of vapour and ice crystals can contribute to significant changes to the temperature of the earth's surface, which far outweighs the effects of carbon dioxide and other gases released by human activities. Just a rise of 1% of water vapour could raise the global average temperature of Earth's surface more then 4 degrees Celsius."
6 posted on 03/28/2006 5:58:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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It sure makes more sense than the fossil fool theory. There were no fossil fuels burning back in the 13th? century when we went through the last temp rise. There are more trees in the USA today than when our Columbus discovered this place. Trees put H2O into the air. Makes more sense than the bearded smelly wackos goofy theory's.


7 posted on 03/28/2006 5:59:37 AM PST by right right
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bump for later


8 posted on 03/28/2006 6:02:39 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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This is dumb, Everyone know that global warming is caused by Fox News and Republicans.


9 posted on 03/28/2006 6:03:02 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Remember 9/11. The left have already forgotten.)
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"the apparent rise in average global"

Apparent to whom? Not to anyone smarter then an M&M.

GW is a politicial idology not a science.


10 posted on 03/28/2006 6:04:15 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Notice, we never had global warming problems until everyone started drinking all that bottled water. Now they're all sweating and raising the temperatures and ruining the earth.


11 posted on 03/28/2006 6:06:05 AM PST by tiki
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Ping

Thought it might interest you.


13 posted on 03/28/2006 6:09:20 AM PST by A message
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They are finally talking about water vapor. Carbon dioxide is nothing compared to it.

Plus the water vapor rises more easily than CO2. A moloecule with two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom is considerebly lighter than O2 or N2 (oxygen and nitrogen respectively) and its part of the reason why moisture laden air rises and convection works. (heat transfer is the other part of it).

Water also has a high specific heat, meaning it can hold more thermal energy, per unit of its weight. That's why our oceans make such a good heat sink. Water can absorb heat without its own temperature rising as much as most other substances, due to its hydrogen bonds.

14 posted on 03/28/2006 6:09:21 AM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything.)
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This study is sure to be ignored and its author's reputation smeared. Too many paychecks depend on the fossil-fuel-is-evil theory.


15 posted on 03/28/2006 6:14:33 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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"The event released as much energy as fifteen one-megaton atomic bombs."

Or one fifteen megaton bomb?

What kind of doofus wrote this piece of drivel?

17 posted on 03/28/2006 6:24:35 AM PST by Redbob
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Shaidurov has concluded that only an enormous natural phenomenon, such as an asteroid or comet impact or airburst, could seriously disturb atmospheric water levels, destroying persistent so-called 'silver', or noctilucent, clouds composed of ice crystals in the high altitude mesosphere (50 to 85km).

Sheesh.

While the author of the article discusses global warming caused by greenhouse gases (including H2O), Shaidurov's theory has little to do with greenhouses gases.

I know this just gets in the way of a good rant about the greenhouse gas theory of global warming -- rant away.

18 posted on 03/28/2006 6:26:23 AM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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The simple expansion of irrigation on a massive scale, worldwide, plus building tens of thousands of golf courses with super-duper greens control systems, could explain everything.

The solution?

19 posted on 03/28/2006 6:38:35 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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It Is all a LIE!
20 posted on 03/28/2006 6:39:53 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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..and if we were all driving hydrogen cars today?

Their exhaust is nothing but pure water vapor.


25 posted on 03/28/2006 7:03:31 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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*Sigh!*

I dunno.

This whole Greenhouse gas thingy was so much more satisfying when we pretended we were saving the planet from destruction. Besides, we could mandate and spend spend trillions of dollars on bigger mufflers for smaller SUVs and the Kyoto Treaty and teaching our kids how to tell other people how uncaring and bad they are.

Now we find out there's not much we can do about it anyway?

This is a helpless feeling, not being in charge of our destiny but just being along for the ride. And all along we thought God was our copilot and we were the ones steering the ship and not Her? It appears our control stick and throttles were actually disconnected!

Pathetic. Please pass the tofu!

26 posted on 03/28/2006 7:05:25 AM PST by Gritty (Politics is the second oldest profession. It bears a striking resemblance to the first-Ronald Reagan)
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Wait a second here. Every one knows the Sun's output, on average, is constant ... the scientists say so. There is no evidence the sun produces a variable output over the decades, right?

Every one knows total h20 vapor in the atmosphere at all elevations, on average, is constant ... the scientists say so. The global climate models boundary conditions assume this, because there is no evidence to prove otherwise.

Everyone knows that all other green house gases, on average, are negligable, except for CO2 ... the scientists say so.

The computer models, written by these scientists are very trustworthy too ... minimal assumptions, incredible amounts of field data for calibration purposes, robust math equations which have minimal fudge factors, boundary conditions which are unassailable. And the computers themselves are extremely intelligently designed.

Everyone knows that a huge pool of water, the ocean, holds a lot of heat, and has lots of currents going different directions at different depths. But the impact on the Carbon cycle, on average, is flat. Sez the good scientists anyway; despite how complicated all those funky currents are.

And, oh yes, salinity levels and how they change over time are very well understood as well, at all depths, and how those levels effect the heat exchange and currents between the ocean and atmosphere ... trivial, and on average, constant.

Everyone knows all this. So posting articles about how water vapor changes over time might impact climate, as a result of a comet like structure impacting the planet ... why, that is just plain deeply ignorant, stupid, and willfully dangerous to the health of this planet. Shame on you.

Everyone knows that man made carbon dioxide is the primary cause of the reality of global warming, for it just swamps all those other data points, which on average, are relatively constant. That is what those trust worthy scientists keep saying (and boy oh boy do they remind me in tone of how certain other brands of scientists defend a certain subject). Mankind is a virus on this planet, remember? Can't we just understand this ... and start developoing solutions to this virus??

Global warming is like gravity.

One of my office mates told me this just YESTERDAY. Why? Because the scientists said so ... they read about it in Time Magazine. And for sure, the people who run Time, and the NY Times, etc, etc ... why, they are really trust worthy. And boy oh boy do reporters just LOVE scientists!!

I know they, the scientists, reporters, and trial lawyers who are salivating at the idea of all those carbon emitting companies who are soon to be declared liable for attacking the planet, why, they ALL honestly care about you and me. It is heart warming.

If it wasn't for G. W. Bush, and all evil republicans, especially the religious variety, this problem and all other problems could be fixed, especially if Hillary gets elected.


32 posted on 03/28/2006 7:17:51 AM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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I wonder if ABC news will pick up on this.........


43 posted on 03/28/2006 9:00:24 AM PST by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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