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Germans are brainiest (but at least we're smarter than the French)
London Times ^ | 3/27/2006 | Helen Nugent

Posted on 03/27/2006 3:53:04 PM PST by Neville72

BRITAIN and France have experienced long periods of conflict and rivalry but now victory in one area can be claimed: Britons are more intelligent than the French. A new European league of IQ scores has ranked the British in eighth place, well above the French, who were 19th. According to Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster, Britons have an average IQ of 100. The French scored 94. But it is not all good news. Top of the table were the Germans, with an IQ of 107. The British were also beaten by the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Austria and Switzerland.

Professor Lynn, who caused controversy last year by claiming that men were more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, said that populations in the colder, more challenging environments of Northern Europe had developed larger brains than those in warmer climates further south. The average brain size in Northern and Central Europe is 1,320cc and in southeast Europe it is 1,312cc. “The early human beings in northerly areas had to survive during cold winters when there were no plant foods and they were forced to hunt big game,” he said. “The main environmental influence on IQ is diet, and people in southeast Europe would have had less of the proteins, minerals and vitamins provided by meat which are essential for brain development.”

He added that differences in intelligence across Britain could be attributed to bright people moving to London over hundreds of years. Adults in England and Wales have an IQ of 100.5, higher than Ireland and Scotland, both with 97. People living in London and the South East average 102. “Once in the capital they have settled and reared children, and these children have inherited their high intelligence and transmitted it to further generations.”

The pattern is repeated in other countries, Professor Lynn claimed. In France, IQ scores in Paris were much higher than those in rural areas.

Professor Lynn has spent three decades analysing thousands of test results to scrutinise the role of evolution in IQ. He has published his findings in a new book. Britons excel in another area of Professor Lynn’s research. He found that university students had, at 109, the second-highest undergraduate IQs in the world, beaten only by their US counterparts on 110.

Professor Lynn ascribes the differences between British and French intelligence levels to the results of military conflict. He described it as “a hitherto unrecognised law of history” that “the side with the higher IQ normally wins, unless they are hugely outnumbered, as Germany was after 1942”.

A “normal” IQ ranges from 85 to 115 but exceptionally gifted people have scores starting at 145.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europe; iq
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1 posted on 03/27/2006 3:53:07 PM PST by Neville72
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To: Neville72

Poland's number 3....who knew? ;-)

Just kidding, I love you Polish folks (but I do love Polish jokes)!


2 posted on 03/27/2006 3:55:19 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty ("This is our Common and we're going to stay here until we leave!" - Random Boston Commie)
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To: Neville72

Of course the Germans are the smartest. Any German would have confirmed that.


3 posted on 03/27/2006 3:55:45 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Well, Kerry did win the exit polls.)
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To: Howlin; onyx; Clemenza; Petronski; GummyIII; SevenofNine; martin_fierro; veronica; EggsAckley; ...

ping


4 posted on 03/27/2006 3:55:50 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Neville72; EveningStar

I am sure France is trying to find a way to surrender.


5 posted on 03/27/2006 3:56:47 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Bookmaestro

ha!


6 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:03 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

but I do love Polish jokes - in France they tell Belgian jokes.


7 posted on 03/27/2006 3:59:26 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Neville72

If the Germans were so smart, how did they manage to choose the wrong side in two WW?


8 posted on 03/27/2006 3:59:46 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Neville72

In other words, Atkins makes you smarter?


9 posted on 03/27/2006 4:00:05 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Neville72

If they are so smart, why are they on an economic death spiral?


10 posted on 03/27/2006 4:01:03 PM PST by Voltage
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To: Neville72
The Dutch, who also have a pretty high opinion of themselves, seem to project the following attitude:

"If the smartest American, and the dumbest Dutchmen were to switch countries, the IQ level of the NL would be diminished, while that of the USA would be increased."

11 posted on 03/27/2006 4:03:42 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Well, Kerry did win the exit polls.)
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To: Fishing-guy
If the Germans were so smart, how did they manage to choose the wrong side in two WW?

In discussing WWII with a German friend I once made the comment that "we kicked your ass, twice!" His response was classic:

'Yah, vell, it took the whole damn world to do it.'

12 posted on 03/27/2006 4:06:44 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Well, Kerry did win the exit polls.)
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To: Neville72
The Sweds are #4?

No more blonde jokes out there!

13 posted on 03/27/2006 4:07:43 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Fishing-guy

The wrong side chose them.


14 posted on 03/27/2006 4:11:14 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Neville72; dfwgator; firebrand; Calpernia; Hermann the Cherusker; rmlew; Pharmboy; ...
The British were also beaten by the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Austria and Switzerland.

Proud to say that one of my ancestral homelands is number three and the other is number five. So much for "dumb polacks", eh?

Its no wonder why Italian and Polish Americans have per capita incomes higher than the national average and white American averages.

15 posted on 03/27/2006 4:12:20 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: EveningStar

Meant to post #15 to you.


16 posted on 03/27/2006 4:13:17 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Neville72

"He described it as 'a hitherto unrecognised law of history' that 'the side with the higher IQ normally wins, unless they are hugely outnumbered, as Germany was after 1942.'"

Hmmmm.
That's why the Italians defeated Britain, I suppose.
And why Poland was such a mighty power in the East.
And why Germany/Austria/Turkey beat France and England in World War I.

No, wait...

Also, the article said the Germans were the smartest. But it appears the Dutch and the Germans tie, which means that the Germans aren't the smartest.

It would be interesting to see if the breakdown of "The British Isles" into England, Scotland, Wales and Ulster would leave the English or Scots with the lead.



17 posted on 03/27/2006 4:27:13 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Neville72

"Professor Lynn, who caused controversy last year by claiming that men were more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, said that populations in the colder, more challenging environments of Northern Europe had developed larger brains than those in warmer climates further south."

Curious, then, that temperate Holland is "smarter" than any of the cold countries, and warm Italy is smarter than Sweden, England, Scotland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, or, actually, anywhere that's really, really cold.

Russia is as cold as it gets, but the're down there in the French range, on the charts.


18 posted on 03/27/2006 4:30:47 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Neville72

Ahhh. This is almost meaningless. Bill Clinton is amazingly smart.

Intelligence without wisdom is practically/usually a vice.


19 posted on 03/27/2006 4:31:41 PM PST by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: Neville72

When you envision the brain power that dreamed up this hare brained scheme, it's hard not to laugh.


20 posted on 03/27/2006 4:32:56 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush and his surveillance program!)
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