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Steyn: Will we stick our necks out for his faith?
Orange County Register ^ | 25 Mar 06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:03 AM PST by rellimpank

Fate conspires to remind us what this war is really about: civilizational confidence. And so history repeats itself: first the farce of the Danish cartoons, and now the tragedy - a man on trial for his life in post-Taliban Afghanistan because he has committed the crime of converting to Christianity.

The cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad were deeply offensive to Muslims, and so thousands protested around the world in the usual restrained manner - rioting, torching, killing, etc.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afganistan; islam; marksteyn; muslim; religion; steyn
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To: 91B
"Maybe so, what do we do then?"

Perhaps some of us wring our hands in despair. Perhaps others say, "We ain't gonna put up with this crap and take action to make sure that no more of these bastards enter this country.

61 posted on 03/25/2006 5:51:31 PM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
Islam and Western Civilization are not at all compatible!!

Islam and Civilization in general are not compatible.

A religion founded by a bloodthirsty pervert is a "religion of peace"? My sides split whenever I hear THAT one!

62 posted on 03/25/2006 5:52:27 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Ridding the Earth of Muslims will be genocide on a scale unmatched by Genghis Khan, Mao Tse-tung, Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler put together. And you want to advocate that?

I seem to recall somewhere in Revelation where a 3rd of the people of the earth (might be a fourth, cant recall) die as a result of...something. Might be a country that has the stones to do it?

63 posted on 03/25/2006 5:57:14 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: davisfh

What action can you take?


64 posted on 03/25/2006 5:59:24 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Windsong

Revelations is in the Old Testament. The Old Testament says a lot of things that most people nowadays do not take literally.


65 posted on 03/25/2006 6:03:00 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Lurker
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group
66 posted on 03/25/2006 6:42:04 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: ontos-on

Better eat your Wheaties, Trigger.


67 posted on 03/25/2006 6:43:09 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
They can sue us.

L

68 posted on 03/25/2006 6:43:15 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"What action can you take?"

Individually, few of us can take any action but, collectively we can resolve not to be overrun by the scum of the earth.

69 posted on 03/25/2006 7:09:14 PM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
collectively we can resolve not to be overrun by the scum of the earth.

That's a real action plan. Sort of like Endeavor to Persevere.

70 posted on 03/25/2006 7:24:03 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Mr Rogers
I can remember when the Americans wiped out virtually all Viet Cong resistance in Saigon. Saigon is Ho Chi Minh City, now.

The British fought three Afghan Wars. They took Kabul several times. They still never conquered Afghanistan. They never even subjugated the Pathans in the North-West Frontier Province.

71 posted on 03/25/2006 7:34:56 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: ontos-on
I'm not out in space, and I'm not advocating global thermonuclear genocide.

Are you willing to risk Los Angeles for whatever vicarious thrill you get from watching Kabul die from the safety of your living room?

72 posted on 03/25/2006 7:40:34 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Your solution?


73 posted on 03/25/2006 7:41:34 PM PST by davisfh
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To: rellimpank

Shortly after 9-11 I realized that the West lacked the will to win this war. I still believe that. If we can't even talk openly about the problem and face it, we are going to lose. You can't care about the feelings of you enemy.


74 posted on 03/25/2006 7:44:40 PM PST by FightThePower!
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To: rellimpank

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks, and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

India today is better off without suttee. If we shrink from the logic of that, then in Afghanistan and many places far closer to home the implications are, as the Prince of Wales would say, "ghastly."

Great words.

We should emulate that speaker.

Mark Steyn is a great man. Too bad he isn't in the White House now.


75 posted on 03/25/2006 7:46:02 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Duke Wayne

Most of them, as a matter of fact, are born into it.


76 posted on 03/25/2006 7:47:30 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: davisfh
There will be peace when the surviving Muslims repudiate jihad and dhimmitude.

Some will have to die before that happens. To get the ones that need killing the most will require assistance from friendly Muslims, who most on this thread don't believe exist and would cheerfully incinerate.

We can't kill 'em all. It's not technically feasible. All we can do is kill off the city dwellers and take out their religious centers. Many seem to think that is a simple thing to do. Many seem to think nuking Mecca wil solve everything. It won't.

Burning down the barn may rid it of rats, but it doesn't do much for the other live stock.

77 posted on 03/25/2006 8:01:58 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: davisfh

Well good luck with that. But what are you going to do with those that are already here or those who convert (lke the black Muslims in Prison)? All the Wahibis have to do is shift their support to assets already in place. Destroying radicalism in Islam is going to be difficult, but it is probably our only real option.


78 posted on 03/25/2006 8:39:45 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group

Then by the same Convention, Islam itself, as dictated by the koran, is an organization actively advocating, and participating in genocide. The should be treated no differently than the adherents of the late and largely unlamented Schikelgruber, and whatever it would take to render them either harmless, or if necessary completely extinct, would be appropriate...

the infowarrior

79 posted on 03/25/2006 10:05:40 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: infowarrior
Do you want to bring individual Islamofascist terrorists to trial for genocide in The Hague?

I'd rather they be killed. I don't think it is a good idea to try to kill 1.2 billion people just to get the bad guys.

80 posted on 03/25/2006 10:42:07 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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