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1 posted on 03/22/2006 5:24:06 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Today Show/NewsBusters ping.

NBC claims its Iraq coverage not negative enough. Yeah, that's the ticket!


2 posted on 03/22/2006 5:25:06 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: OldFriend

Here's more information on the Ingraham/Gregory confrontation.


3 posted on 03/22/2006 5:26:16 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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I thought about posting a separate thread because ABC's Good Morning America led off with asking readers' to email them from their website about what type of coverage we (the public) would like to read.

I went ahead and emailed them my thoughts.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/


4 posted on 03/22/2006 5:29:36 AM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Native Texan, now in SW Ok.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well if it's all that bad, why is he standing on a balcony? Has he ever heard of snipers? Bazookas? or American Tanks? ;)


6 posted on 03/22/2006 5:31:01 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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Were there any clips of Engel and ordinary Iraqi citizens and/or children?


7 posted on 03/22/2006 5:32:52 AM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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"Most Iraqis I speak to say most reporters get it wrong. The situation on the ground is worse than the images we project on television."

That's a predictable result, when you embed yourself with al Qaeda!

8 posted on 03/22/2006 5:32:55 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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Here's a link to a depiction of Ingraham's appearance yesterday on the Today show: "Laura in the Lions Den."

http://newsbusters.org/node/4542


9 posted on 03/22/2006 5:33:42 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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But, but, but...isn't George Bush the one who is "isolated" and "out of touch"? That's what the coiffed, pressed and starched teleprompter warriors of the MSM keep telling us.
10 posted on 03/22/2006 5:35:08 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (The Main Stream Media: Al-Qaeda's most effective spy network.)
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"Most Iraqis I speak to say most reporters get it wrong. The situation on the ground is worse than the images we project on television."

As if they are heading home and switching on their cable tv's. Uh huh.
11 posted on 03/22/2006 5:36:20 AM PST by goodform
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I've seen deeper NBC introspection when they're doing their office makeovers. "Are we doing a good job?" They ask the Magic 8-ball. "Could be" is the answer. Good enough for them.

I despise them more at times like this than all others combined. They actually believe that we believe they submitted themselves to the tough questions. Pffft.

13 posted on 03/22/2006 5:39:42 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (If the ledge fails, is it still considered suicide?)
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"Most Iraqis I speak to say most reporters get it wrong. The situation on the ground is worse than the images we project on television."

If NBC believes most Iraqis they speak with, then the reporter's statement constitutes an admission that they are not getting out and getting the REAL STORY about the security situation.

And, if they believe, by their own admission, that they are not getting the real story on the "security situation", why is it that they believe they are reporting the real story regarding the "non security" aspects of life in Iraq?

14 posted on 03/22/2006 5:40:36 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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Ingraham suggested that the media get off their perches and out into the field. Speak with the Iraqi military, meet with villagers and children. Ingraham predicted that the resulting stories would paint a picture of Iraq more positive than the gloom and doom seen in the glare of the latest IED explosion that is the typical MSM fare.

Ms. Ingraham is correct to challenge the lamstream media to do that, but my guess is that even if they did they'd find a way to spin it negatively. What we need to realize is that the lamestream press has no intention of being objective. When a Republican/conservative is in office, everything is bad, bad, bad. When a liberal 'Rat is in office, everything is great, great, great. Their reports are not information but agitprop. The MSM is an agenda-driven business, and the truth of the matter about any given subject is not a consideration.

We're mostly on our own when it comes to finding out the truth of any story today. Fortunately, we have more resources today to do that than were available in the past. Unfortunately, most people in the country are lazy and willing to believe what they are told than make any effort to find things out for themselves.

16 posted on 03/22/2006 5:43:02 AM PST by chimera
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Unless the media shows the flowers blooming in Iraq everyday, Bush/war supporters will claim the media is distorting the situation in Iraq.

Frankly, neither side has it correct. There are good things happening, as well as an abundance of bad. And the ongoing bad media campaign is sickening.

Frankly the administrations admission the other day that any withdrawl would likely occur on some other administrations watch is a very different story of when we were told we would leave if asked by the Iraqi government.

It could be that we know the government wouldn't ask for at least three more years or now we wouldn't if we were asked.

But back to the media, how many reporters or their crew have been killed, seriously hurt or kidnapped while covering this war. And I bet they weren't all on a balcony.

Laura's comment was a straw man argument.

19 posted on 03/22/2006 5:46:21 AM PST by joesbucks
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This morning on Today, we ask "Are journalists doing a bad job covering Iraq?" Let's ask a journalist.

That's pretty funny.


20 posted on 03/22/2006 5:46:58 AM PST by soloNYer
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In the past 5 months, I have talked to 4 local reservists who each returned from Iraq assignments that lasted more than a year.

If it isn't the first sentence they volunteer, it is in their second: They say that what you see on TV is not at all the way it is Iraq. And they say that it is much more POSITIVE than portrayed.

This is why the MSM has such a credibility issue. When do you see any stories about returning service members? Usually only if they are in the minority voicing opposition, or if they have returned with a major injury. Only the local media outlets cover the reports from our friends and neighbors who give first-hand accounts of what is really being accomplished.

As far as David Engel, it seems like if he went to a road-building site or new school or hospital, his chances of needing his flak jacket and helmet would be greating reduced. But, they're not doing that kind of story in New Orleans, either. So why should we be surprised?


21 posted on 03/22/2006 5:48:43 AM PST by leftcoaster
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In the early days of the troops in Bagdad, one of the big hotels was attacked. IIRC NBC's Richard Engel was the reporter who sent his driver downstairs (where the action was) to get the news reports. Engel stayed upstairs (safety) and made his broadcasts from there.

There were FR threads about it when it was revealed. Engel may have been employed by CNN at the time. IIRC, he changed employers a couple of years ago.

That was about the time he was annointed with the nomenclature: Chicken Richard.


24 posted on 03/22/2006 5:57:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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When Gregory asked "is security the overall story?" Engel replied: "Most Iraqis I speak to say most reporters get it wrong. The situation on the ground is worse than the images we project on television."

This strikes me as similar to Pauline Kael's "No one I know voted for Nixon."

Obviously, he is so isolated, he cant see reality.

26 posted on 03/22/2006 6:00:35 AM PST by Rich_E
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Maybe if just once, when the MSM is caught red-handed reporting something wrong/lying/being biased, they would just own up to it and take their licks, then viewers would have a bit of respect for them and their ratings wouldn't be hemhorraging.


30 posted on 03/22/2006 6:10:19 AM PST by uncitizen
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Gregory probably had his mind preoccupied with dreams about having an affair with Bill Clinton.
33 posted on 03/22/2006 6:13:48 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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When you'd like a terrorist to shoot accurately, they whiz them over his head!


35 posted on 03/22/2006 6:15:28 AM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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