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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Unless the media shows the flowers blooming in Iraq everyday, Bush/war supporters will claim the media is distorting the situation in Iraq.

Frankly, neither side has it correct. There are good things happening, as well as an abundance of bad. And the ongoing bad media campaign is sickening.

Frankly the administrations admission the other day that any withdrawl would likely occur on some other administrations watch is a very different story of when we were told we would leave if asked by the Iraqi government.

It could be that we know the government wouldn't ask for at least three more years or now we wouldn't if we were asked.

But back to the media, how many reporters or their crew have been killed, seriously hurt or kidnapped while covering this war. And I bet they weren't all on a balcony.

Laura's comment was a straw man argument.

19 posted on 03/22/2006 5:46:21 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

"Laura's comment was a straw man argument."

Of COURSE it was. Laura was only out the field for
a week with the troops. How would she know what the
dying mainstream media is doing? It certainly is
a straw man argument to point out that NBC et al's
reporters are reporting from their hotel rooms and
the bars where the latest explosion is.

You, sir, are an ass.


27 posted on 03/22/2006 6:03:13 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: joesbucks
There are only a few provinces that are dangerous and violent right now. The vast majority of the country is peaceful and starting to recover from Saddam and the war. The problem is the MSM stays where the action is. Their ratings would be in the toilet if they led each newscast with an economic analysis of household income of Kurds or increases in nationwide megawatt output. 'If it bleeds it leads' is the line they like to use... to deny this is to deny reality.
29 posted on 03/22/2006 6:08:29 AM PST by mrexitement (There's the right way, the wrong way, and my way. My way is also wrong but it's faster.)
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To: joesbucks

I support Bush and the war in Iraq, even while acknowleging there were mistakes (show me a war where everything worked according to plan). You say I want to see flowers blooming everyday, that's absolute BS. I just want the full picture. Can you find one story of progress that makes the front page? There has to be at least one hero in the war...they can't be all torturing and murdering innocent women and children can they?


32 posted on 03/22/2006 6:11:40 AM PST by soloNYer
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To: joesbucks
Frankly the administrations admission the other day that any withdrawl would likely occur on some other administrations watch is a very different story of when we were told we would leave if asked by the Iraqi government.

I suggest you read the WHOLE comment the President said .. including the follow up question

President Bush pointed out to the reporter that he wanted Bush to put a time table on Iraq .. and he isn't going to do that

49 posted on 03/22/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: joesbucks

"Frankly the administrations admission the other day that any withdrawl would likely occur on some other administrations watch is a very different story of when we were told we would leave if asked by the Iraqi government."

Sorry, I'm not a media type and I'm just farmer from the backwash of PA, not too sophisticated and all.

But I cannot understand how the first part of your paragraph has anything at all to do with last part of it. It kinda looks like some kind of spin to me. Is it?

Like what has the Iraqis asking us to leave have to do with the war crossing to another administration?

I clearly remember the President saying that the war on terror wasn't going to be quick and easy, and that it would take years.

I clearly rememeber him saying that we would leave if the Iraqis asked. If they ask, I'm sure we'll leave. If they don't, I'm sure we will be there into the next administration.

How is that a problem?


60 posted on 03/22/2006 6:37:56 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember always to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: joesbucks
Frankly the administrations admission the other day that any withdrawl would likely occur on some other administrations watch is a very different story of when we were told we would leave if asked by the Iraqi government.

That is a lie. All he was doing was acknowledging reality. Even if the Iraqi government asked us TOMORROW to leave, we couldn't just snap our fingers and they all would disappear from Iraq and reappear at Ft Hood. He prefaced that remark by saying that if the question was about a complete withdrawal down to the last man, then only the next President would be able to answer that as it would take at least 2 1/2 years to completely remove all of our troops.

138 posted on 03/22/2006 2:59:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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