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Nasa to put man on far side of moon
Times of London ^ | 3/18/06

Posted on 03/18/2006 4:10:56 PM PST by iPod Shuffle

The Sunday Times March 19, 2006

Nasa to put man on far side of moon Jonathan Leake , Science Editor NASA, the American space agency, has unveiled plans for one of the largest rockets ever built to take a manned mission to the far side of the moon.

It will ferry a mother ship and lunar lander into Earth orbit to link up with a smaller rocket carrying the crew. Once united they will head for the moon where the larger ship will remain in orbit after launching the lunar lander and crew.

The design emerged during a space science conference in Houston, Texas, last week. The plan is part of Nasa’s “Return to the Moon” programme set in motion by President George W Bush two years ago.

Under the project, up to four astronauts at a time will land on the far side of the moon to collect rock samples and carry out research, including looking for water that might one day support a lunar base.

The scale of the missions is much larger than the earlier Apollo programme, which is why Nasa will need two separate rockets to take the mother ship and crew into space.

Some missions will also see manned spacecraft landing in unexplored areas such as the lunar mountains and on the moon’s south and north poles.

John Connolly, manager of Nasa’s lunar lander project, said the system was designed to carry crews to almost every part of the moon’s surface.

“The samples they collect and the research they carry out will help solve many mysteries about the origins and composition of the moon and its suitability as a base,” he said.

The Apollo programme carried out six lunar landings between 1969 and 1972. The feat was a triumph, but the technical limitations of the Apollo craft, plus ignorance of lunar terrain, meant all six missions had to be sent to the moon’s plains.

These regions, all on the near side of the moon, were the only areas known to be flat enough for a safe landing. This has frustrated scientists because the samples collected by the six missions are all similar. They are also thought to be younger than lunar mountain rocks.

The far side — so called because it always faces away from the Earth — was first photographed in 1959 by a Russian probe. In 1968 the astronauts of Apollo 8 became the first to view it directly.

The evidence gathered by such missions was enough to deter any attempt to land because most of the far side appeared to be covered in large craters. Additionally, any craft landing there would be cut off from radio contact with Earth.

Connolly believes, however, that Nasa will be able to overcome such problems by sending a series of robotic probes ahead of the manned missions.

The first of these, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, to be launched in 2008, will map the moon’s surface in detail.

Cameras will photograph the surface, backed by a laser altimeter to create a three-dimensional relief map from which Nasa can identify landing sites.

Then, from 2010, a series of “companion lander” missions will carry out test landings on selected sites to see if they are worth a visit by humans.

The final element will be a system of communications satellites, dubbed the “lunar internet”, so astronauts will be able to relay signals to Earth from any part of the moon.

Connolly said the first humans could arrive as early as 2015, although 2018 was more likely. The agency would then aim to send two crews to the moon each year for up to five years. The programme will cost around £56 billion and may also be used to test technology for any future mission to Mars.

Some have questioned whether the programme will produce enough good science to justify the costs.

Manuel Grande, head of the planetary science group at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire, dismissed such fears. “Finding out more about the moon will help us understand where the Earth and moon came from,” he said. “There do not have to be good scientific reasons . . . It’s like going up Everest; we want to go to places like the moon and Mars just because they are there.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: astronomy; darksideofthemoon; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; lunation; lunations; moon; moonbase; nasa; pinkfloydwasright; space; spacex; spacexploration; themoon
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To: ordinaryguy

LRO is going to do a much better job of mapping, down to about 6ft relief.

Clementine was experimental, kind of a throwaway mission, but it did a good job.


121 posted on 03/18/2006 7:30:37 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That's a neat movie. I didn't realize it wobbles like that.


122 posted on 03/18/2006 7:31:29 PM PST by ExGeeEye (All Hail the Great Folger, creator of hot brown goodness.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

The last 3 Apollo landing missions which were cancelled were going to land in different types of locations. One even had astronauts rapelling down a hill.

But, it was not to be.


123 posted on 03/18/2006 7:34:31 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Everybody should take a look at the video. Everybody thinks they know about the moon, but hardly anybody has really seen that movement.


124 posted on 03/18/2006 7:39:11 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: DoughtyOne

I usually leave the tinfoil to others, but when no one else is handling those duties on a thread, my metal chapeau comes out of storage.


125 posted on 03/18/2006 7:45:11 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Well, good job. Have a good one...


126 posted on 03/18/2006 7:48:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: ExGeeEye
It's called libration.
127 posted on 03/18/2006 7:49:17 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: KarlInOhio; Popman
The far side of the moon gets just as much sunlight as the near side.

Technically, the "dark side" gets a little more sunlight every year, since it's never eclipsed by the earth's shadow.

128 posted on 03/18/2006 7:53:50 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RightWhale

Nonsense. Just ask a friend to drop their pants and wiggle their tush in the very same fashion while you illuminate them with a strobe light. Easy!


129 posted on 03/18/2006 7:54:46 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Names Ash Housewares; dr_who_2

Ok kids, if you don't settle down, we won't go to Wally World if you keep this up.


130 posted on 03/18/2006 7:59:56 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I beg to differ. We're supposed to be going to the far side of the moon. Stay on topic!


131 posted on 03/18/2006 8:01:54 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

Sheesh, that was sooooo Pink Floyd.


132 posted on 03/18/2006 8:04:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Names Ash Housewares

"the sky is not the limit, that there ARE no limits."

... if you can squander billions of dollars... got the right!


133 posted on 03/18/2006 8:10:55 PM PST by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few, than of all!)
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To: observer5

""the sky is not the limit, that there ARE no limits.""

"... if you can squander billions of dollars... got the right!"

sigh.

You did see the federal budget graph I posted?


134 posted on 03/18/2006 8:21:45 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: a_different_conservative
"I nominate Ted Kennedy."

Send a little wine to go with that cheese?

135 posted on 03/18/2006 8:49:31 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: new cruelty

Major ted

Priceless your my new hero


136 posted on 03/18/2006 8:59:17 PM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: DoughtyOne
Someone accurately pointed out that we will make a more established trip this time, setting up at least temporary bases. Okay, well and good. It will be 2020, not 1980.

I am not impressed.

Nor am I. I was 19 in 1969 when we first landed on the moon and I'll be 70 or so during this next excursion.

137 posted on 03/19/2006 3:21:53 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess. NRA.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

"I was there first! It's MINE! MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE!..."

138 posted on 03/19/2006 3:36:07 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: new cruelty

LOL.


139 posted on 03/19/2006 3:51:08 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it)
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To: iPod Shuffle

I nominate Upchuck Schuuummmmeeer, Al Charleton, and Helen Tomass for the flight crew~


140 posted on 03/19/2006 4:03:16 AM PST by leprechaun9
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